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posted: 29 Jul 2007 13:16

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Jim Guthrie
 
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    I have problems when I try to respond to a message in a thread.  I use the 'Reply With Quote' facility,  trim the quoted material and add my own content.  I preview the message and all looks as intended.   But when I send the message to the forum,  and view the message on the forum,  I find that the quoted material is untrimmed and my content is not present.

I then have to use the 'Edit' facility to do the trimming of the quote,  and to add my text,  send it,  and the message then appears as intended.  This has just happened in my message to the 'Fremington North' thread,  and it happened on another response some weeks ago.

I'm using WinXP Home running the latest update of Firefox.

Jim.

posted: 29 Jul 2007 15:57

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Jim,

Sorry you are having trouble. I'm also using XP Home and the latest Firefox update, and I haven't had the problems you mentioned. So I'm a bit puzzled what to suggest. Anyone else? Maybe there is a setting in Firefox somewhere which affects this. Perhaps it is related to the length of the quoted section -- I tend to trim long original messages into shorter quoted sections. Also after doing a Preview I almost invariably change something in the editor, maybe that makes a difference.

The next time it happens could you (a) not edit it, so I can check what's in the database (send a fresh message instead) and (b) send me a txt file of the page source? In Firefox that's View > Page Source and then File > Save Page As...

Many thanks.

More generally, if anyone needs to make a major change to a message it is better to send a fresh one and then delete the old one. Edits don't get sent out as emails, so folks reading the forum by email will see only your original unedited message.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 29 Jul 2007 19:50

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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Martin Wynne wrote:
Hi Jim,

Sorry you are having trouble. I'm also using XP Home and the latest Firefox update, and I haven't had the problems you mentioned. So I'm a bit puzzled what to suggest. Anyone else?
I have seen this, but doing a preview before sending seems to make it work properly.  Trouble is, I haven't seen it often enough to pick up any pattern!

So, this message will be sent without a preview, with quoted text, and let's see how it appears :)

(Well, it seemed to be absolutely fine!)
Last edited on 29 Jul 2007 19:50 by Paul Boyd
posted: 30 Jul 2007 04:12

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Jim Guthrie
 
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Martin Wynne wrote:
Hi Jim,

Sorry you are having trouble. I'm also using XP Home and the latest Firefox update, and I haven't had the problems you mentioned. So I'm a bit puzzled what to suggest. Anyone else? Maybe there is a setting in Firefox somewhere which affects this. Perhaps it is related to the length of the quoted section -- I tend to trim long original messages into shorter quoted sections. Also after doing a Preview I almost invariably change something in the editor, maybe that makes a difference.

The next time it happens could you (a) not edit it, so I can check what's in the database (send a fresh message instead) and (b) send me a txt file of the page source? In Firefox that's View > Page Source and then File > Save Page As...

Many thanks.

More generally, if anyone needs to make a major change to a message it is better to send a fresh one and then delete the old one. Edits don't get sent out as emails, so folks reading the forum by email will see only your original unedited message.

regards,

Martin.


posted: 30 Jul 2007 04:18

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Jim Guthrie
 
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    Martin,

It happened again - see my message just before this one where your complete message quote appears whereas I had trimmed it quite a bit and added a line of my own.

In Firefox,  I hit the back button to get the editor page to get the data from teh page to find that it had also reverted to your full quote,  with none of my trims or added text.

Could it be something in Firefox?

Jim.

posted: 30 Jul 2007 05:17

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Martin Wynne
 
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Jim Guthrie wrote:
In Firefox, I hit the back button to get the editor page to get the data from the page to find that it had also reverted to your full quote,  with none of my trims or added text.
Hi Jim,

Ah. Can you explain a bit more why you need to use the Back button? That won't work while you have unsaved text in the message editor. You must remain on the page and click either Preview or Send, only. Changing pages loses your text. This is normal browser behaviour I think.

If you want to refer to the previous message while writing your message, just scroll the page down. The full topic is reviewed below, and you can copy and paste from it to the editor above.

Or in Firefox just re-open a second instance of Templot Club in a separate tab. Then you can freely copy and paste between tabs. But don't use the Forward - Back buttons.

Alternatively, if you right-click on "Reply with quote", you can select "Open link in new tab" and get the same result that way.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 30 Jul 2007 12:18

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Jim Guthrie
 
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Martin Wynne wrote:
Ah. Can you explain a bit more why you need to use the Back button? That won't work while you have unsaved text in the message editor. You must remain on the page and click either Preview or Send, only. Changing pages loses your text. This is normal browser behaviour I think.

I
Martin,

I was just copying what I do in other forums running different forum software.    I'll remember this for the Templot forum in future.

Jim.

posted: 30 Jul 2007 19:14

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Martin Wynne
 
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Jim Guthrie wrote:
Martin Wynne wrote:
Ah. Can you explain a bit more why you need to use the Back button? That won't work while you have unsaved text in the message editor. You must remain on the page and click either Preview or Send, only. Changing pages loses your text.
I was just copying what I do in other forums running different forum software. I'll remember this for the Templot forum in future.
Hi Jim,

I have done some tests. Using the Back and Forward buttons normally while in the message editor does indeed lose any changes you have made in the editor.

However, you can SHIFT-click on the Back button in Firefox (I learn something new every day!) which opens the previous page in a new window or a new tab. This doesn't lose your work in the message editor when you go back to the editor page.

regards,

Martin.



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