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topic: 1438Print of Timbering Data?
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posted: 31 Mar 2011 17:27

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Bill Fay
 
 

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Is it possible to print off the timbering data for a turnout? Specifically I am thinking of the timbering spacing after having shoved timbers around. I have tried a search of previous topics but drew a blank.

Bill

posted: 31 Mar 2011 21:11

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Martin Wynne
 
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Bill Fay wrote:
Is it possible to print off the timbering data for a turnout? Specifically I am thinking of the timbering spacing after having shoved timbers around. I have tried a search of previous topics but drew a blank.
Hi Bill,

Sorry this isn't directly available. Can you say why you need it in printed form? The dimensions really make sense only when laid out graphically.

There is a way, sort of. But it's a bit tedious. Well actually, it's very tedious. :(

1. Copy your template to the control template if not already.

2. Set it as a straight turnout, with timbers square-on, and ends in-line.

3. Shift it onto the datum.

4. store & background.

5. Select the background template as the only member of a group.

6. Make sure print normal size 100% is set in the print menu.

7. Export a DXF file (only background templates can be exported):
   On the DXF dialog, click selected group only.
   Change all the DXF colours to none, except for timber centre-lines and timber numbering.
   Set mm or inches for your preferred units (these will be model sizes, not prototype).
   Save the DXF file.

8. Open the DXF file in a text editor such as Windows Notepad (DXF files are plain text).

9. Search for the word "ENTITIES" and delete everything above it in the file.

10. You should now have a long list looking like this short extract for each timber. Search for the word "LINE" to mark the start of each block of data:
...
...
...
  0
LINE    ------ start of data for this timber
  8
TIMBCENT
 10
171.96  ------ X dimension to this timber centre
 20
65.10
 11
171.96
 21
11.10
  0
TEXT
  8
TIMBNUMB
 10
169.96
 20
6.63
 40
2.47
  1
1.T6    ------ template number, and this timber number
  0
LINE    ------ end of data for this timber, start of next timber.
  8
...
...
...


With some creative searching and replacing it should be possible to edit the list into a presentable form. Unfortunately the data is not listed in the same order as the timbers in the turnout, but this can also be fixed with some editing.

If you can explain why you need this I will consider adding it as a function to produce a proper neat printed list. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 31 Mar 2011 22:41

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Bill Fay
 
 

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Many thanks Martin,

Gosh you are right that is a tedious process. I'm not totally convinced I need it - provided that when I change the scale of a template the timbering will change correctly and also I presume that when I "copy to control" the shoved timbers will also follow through.

Maybe it is just a wish rather than a need. I am one of those strange people who like to see written data:)

Bill

posted: 31 Mar 2011 23:06

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Martin Wynne
 
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Bill Fay wrote:
Gosh you are right that is a tedious process.
Hi Bill,

Well yes, the DXF file isn't intended to be printed out as text. :)

If you open it in a CAD program, it's possible you may be able to obtain a print of entity data.

I'm not totally convinced I need it - provided that when I change the scale of a template the timbering will change correctly and also I presume that when I "copy to control" the shoved timbers will also follow through.
Before changing the scale of the template, be sure to select the match original option. This is not the default setting.

Note that it is possible to get a perfect conversion only if the scale:track-gauge ratio remains exactly the same. For example converting H0 to P4 works. Converting EM to 00 doesn't -- there will be some discrepancies to correct.

Yes, copy to the control copies everything, including any shoved timbers.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 1 Apr 2011 10:15

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Martin,

Thanks for your help and advice.

Bill



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