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posted: 16 Sep 2007 23:47

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leflep
 
Carlisle - United Kingdom

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I am trying to make a 90 degree 'diamond' crossing. I make a diamond crossing and then go to 'Template' - 'V crossing options' - 'Other' and type in 1:1 for the crossing angle. This is rejected as an invalid request. Is there another way?

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Peter

posted: 17 Sep 2007 07:49

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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leflep wrote:
I am trying to make a 90 degree 'diamond' crossing. I make a diamond crossing and then go to 'Template' - 'V crossing options' - 'Other' and type in 1:1 for the crossing angle. This is rejected as an invalid request. Is there another way?
Hi Peter,

Sorry, 90-degree and similar short-angle crossings are not directly supported in Templot. They are unusual on the prototype -- designs vary a lot and don't use conventional chairing for the vees. If you have a prototype drawing (there is a 1:1 drawing in the GWSG GWR track book, p.54 -- see below) you can create one using partial templates and much timber shoving.

By the way, a 90-degree crossing is 1:0 angle -- a 1:1 RAM crossing is 45 degrees. The current bottom limit in Templot is 1:2. Below that the timbering algorithm falls over. I intend to reduce the limit to 1:1.5 in a future pug, but it will still need manual timbering intervention.

If you are familiar with geometry and computer programming I'm sure you will see the problem with a 1:0 angle and hear the alarm bells ringing! :(

regards,

Martin.

posted: 17 Sep 2007 20:03

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Jamie92208
 
 

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Hi Martin

I've got a short angle crossing to construct.  Is it possible for you to post a sample timbering for say a 45 degree one so that I have some idea of roughly how to shove the timbers.

Jamie Guest

posted: 17 Sep 2007 23:13

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Jamie92208 wrote:
I've got a short angle crossing to construct. Is it possible for you to post a sample timbering for say a 45 degree one so that I have some idea of roughly how to shove the timbers.
Hi Jamie,

The best I can do is scan the drawing from David Smith's excellent GWR book. This is a 1:1 short-angle crossing:

short_angle_crossing.jpgshort_angle_crossing.jpg
© GWSG

Bear in mind that this is specifically GWR  and BR(W) -- sorry I don't have any information for other companies.

The "main line" rails are on through baulk timbers (waybeams) held to gauge with transoms and tie-bolts. The "branch line" baulk timbers are rebated into the main timbers. The rails are vertical in the crossing, requiring a twist in the rail at each approach and special check rail chairs.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 17 Sep 2007 23:45

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Thanks for that Martin.  It's part of Lancaster Green Ayre shed which hopefully will make it onto the circuit in 7mm gauge.

Jamie



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