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posted: 18 Oct 2011 14:32 from: Brunnhaus
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Hi comunity! I plan to introduce a catenary system to my layout. It would be big help, if one could show the allowed range of position for catenary lines in a templot plan? And it would be big help to design independant catenary lines into the layout to find correct positions for masts etc. Has anybody experience how to do that in Templot? George |
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posted: 18 Oct 2011 14:46 from: Rob Manchester
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Hello george, Have you done the track plan yet ? What scale/gauge will it be ? You will need to make some compromises with putting catenary on a model unless you have a lot of space for the layout. Curves are often much tighter than the real ones and the spacing between masts will need to be closer than scale too. Rob |
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posted: 18 Oct 2011 14:48 from: Alan McMillan
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Hi I've developed two ways of doing catenary. The first one was to export my Templot plan as a DXF file and add mast positions and contact wire lines thereafter in Corel Draw. It works but it's time consuming and creates enormous files which my PC (3Gb processor and 2Gb of RAM) had difficulty in handling without slowing down to a crawl. My favoured method is to wait until the track is built and then place dressmakers pins into the track at the correct positions to represent the wire support points. I then stretch white cotton thread between these pins to represent the contact wires. The positions can then be moved to fine-tune things like the stagger at the support points and mid-span points. The positions of the pins can then be used to create a front elevation drawing of the mast or portal at each location which is then used as a template in their construction. Regards Alan |
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posted: 18 Oct 2011 15:19 from: Martin Wynne
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Hi George, This 8-year-old message on the former Templot email group may be of interest: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/templot/message/2270 For those who may have difficulty accessing the file link there, I have attached it below. To represent the overhead wires you could use dummy centre-line only templates. Or maybe use the draw with mouse function in the background shapes. There is also a function in the spacing-ring tool to draw background shape lines between specific locations. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 19 Oct 2011 10:36 from: Brunnhaus
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Thanks for replies up to now! Martin, would it work, if I adjust the trackbed values for N-scale to e.g. 4mm instead 25mm? would the lines be correctly indicated or might occur unexpected reactions? The answer for Robs questions is: My gauge is 9mm european fiNescale. My station with 7 tracks is Rosenheim (Bavaria) from 1858, so no catenary at that time. I designed the trackwork totally through templot and built it on the printed plan with sleepers and flat bottom rails from The 2mm Association. The station is 4m long and 1,4m wide. You find some picture e.g. here: http://www.c-martens.de/schut_11/schut_11.html . My station is the one with the roundhouse and the brick buildings. Turnouts are 1:9 and radius not less than 1m. I intend to equip the station to a status of 1916 with poles from Hammerschmidt though the station did not exist anymore from 1876 on. It was too crowded and not expandible, so there was built a new one outside town with 27 tracks. The old Mainbuilding is townhall today, the roundhouse is used as exhibition area. On the old trackbed the main road crosses the town. George. |
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posted: 19 Oct 2011 10:56 from: Martin Wynne
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Brunnhaus wrote: Martin, would it work, if I adjust the trackbed values for N-scale to e.g. 4mm instead 25mm? would the lines be correctly indicated or might occur unexpected reactions?Hi George, To use the file which I posted, you need to convert the template from EM to N gauge. How to do that is here: message 3425 Sorry, you have rather lost me with the 4mm and 25mm references.  regards, Martin. |
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posted: 19 Oct 2011 12:32 from: Brunnhaus
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Martin, if I use templot, I find measures for the trackbed in the program. In Nscale, there is a width of 25mm preset. If indicated in the template, I find two lines for the bed besides the track. My idea is, to adjust the trackbed values to a smaller size than the gauge, which generates two lines inside the track. This could be used as a field of tolerance for the position of the catenary wires (3mm for N-scale). It worked with plain track. but it showed no line on the siding of a turnout. My question to the honourable inventor of Templot is: may my unconventional use of templot produce unstable behavior of the program? My Templot version is 91c. Thank you and regards George |
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posted: 26 Jun 2018 12:48 from: ClikC
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Sorry to resurrect a thread from the depths of time. Martin, I assume the shoved timbers method still works for mast bases? Regards Matt |
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