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Hi All,

I have just put together a Help Guide Tutorial for an Alternative Method of constructing Slip templates (both Single and Double Slips), using the latest version of Templot2.

I therefore, would be grateful if one or two of you will be kind enough to try it out and see what you think, and if you would be so kind, as to report any problems you find, and in particular, if you don’t fully understand any part of the document.

The attached file is in PDF format, and the document it contains is reasonably illustrated with screenshots taken from the Trackplan whilst constructing some slips.

Have a play, and I hope it helps, perhaps, some members.

All the best,

Brian Nicholls.

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Brian,

Many thanks - I found it very helpful as I always struggle with these things (which means I am not best placed to comment on the methods!).
Just a quick question - in referring to position of the end of the switches, should it not mention ensuring that the switch end is fully supported on a slide chair (ie located above a timber) There is usually not much scope for moving the timbers subsequently.

Best Wishes,

Howard
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Post your questions on the forum where everyone can see them and add helpful replies.
Hi Brian,

Thanks for that.

However I'm a bit puzzled why you have called it an "alternative" method when it follows the usual method?

It's generally much easier to use the built-in slip functions for shortening the check rails and extending the timbers when creating slips. And the built-in slip switches are much easier to use than a standard switch -- that's why they are provided in the switch list. When pegged on TCP, MCP as intended they provide adequate opening clearance without needing to measure it.

regards,

Martin.

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Hi Howard,

Many thanks for your response, it was the intention and hope that it may help some members, as I noted over the past months, a number of members seemed to be confused about making slips, even though there is Martins brilliant video available to guide them through the process.
I just felt, perhaps a straight forward written and illustrated document might just tip the balance a little.

Regarding your question, I had purposely not covered the timbering and hence chair fixtures, because it can be quite a minefield with all the different company PW practices on that subject.
Also, I wanted to keep the size of the document to something that would be acceptable to others, I know when I first started to write it, I was putting in every baby step, but soon realised that the document would end up much too large for comfort, so made the choice to compromise and try to keep it fairly short.
This bye the way, is something I very much appreciate is Martins dilemma in producing documentation for Templot2, what do you put in, will it be understood, is it sufficient for the job, have I missed something, and it goes on and on and on !! :roll:
 
However, your point is taken, and people should be aware that the switch blades do need the correct support of the slider chairs and therefore need to be able to position a timber in the right place in order to fit the chairs.

If other people think that it may be necessary to add to the document, then this can be easily done.
 
Thanks again Howard. :thumb:

All the best,

Brian Nicholls.

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Hi Martin,

Thanks for the response, it’s nice to know at least some people are reading the document, it kind of makes it worth while. :)


Martin Wynne wrote:
However I'm a bit puzzled why you have called it an "alternative" method when it follows the usual method?

I called it an Alternative Method because basically I did not use the same instructions as used in the video (TCP, MCP etc), nor did I use the built in slip switches as you pointed out in your comment.

I simple developed this as a way of being able to use my own custom switches (but all built in switches can also be used by the method as well), and decided to write it out and publish in the hope it may help other members who seem to be struggling on how to make a slip template.

Needless to say, that when I first started to make slip templates, I used the method as in the video, and have done so many times in the past, but on occasions, I can across an odd one that needed ‘tweaking’ so began to look and see how best to do the tweaking.

 
It's generally much easier to use the built-in slip functions for shortening the check rails and extending the timbers when creating slips. And the built-in slip switches are much easier to use than a standard switch -- that's why they are provided in the switch list.

I actually don’t find it difficult to make slips using the method I describe, and I find I can make them quite quickly, even though I’m never in a hurry to do things. :)
When pegged on TCP, MCP as intended they provide adequate opening clearance without needing to measure it.

As to the clearances, I always like to check them, and double check them just to be sure. :)

Thanks again Martin for your comment it is appreciated. :thumb:

All the best,

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f8fcff"Brian Nicholls


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Hi Martin,

As a PS to my last message.

I omitted to mention something that has been bugging me, I find that these Tips and Tutorials are being buried and perhaps forgotten, when the next posting is placed, and as subsequent postings are sent in it gets buried even further. :(

Also in some cases the section is being used for questions, which I feel is not what it was meant for. :?

There is also a lot of extra clutter in the area, which I must admit, is in essence our own fault since, as I have just done in my current posting, asked for responses as to what people think of the tip or tutorial. :roll:

I’m not sure what the answer is but I think a nice clean area for the Tips and Tutorials would be better appreciated by newer users if they knew what was in there and could find it easier when they looked.

I must stress Martin that this is of course none of your doing, you were kind enough to setup the area for members benefit, but it has just gone a little astray of the intended path.

All the best,

Brian Nicholls

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Hi Brian,

I think you are right about the problem of useful things getting buried in the converstions; that is what the Indexing project seeks to address.

regards

Les G

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