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posted: 1 Jul 2012 18:18

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mikegriff
 
North Wales - United Kingdom

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I have a real newbie question.

I wish to use 00-SF in Templot for my scenic part of the lay out layout (16.2mm) but believe that I have to model the "hidden bits"/sharp curves in 16.5mm. How do I combine the 2 standards within Templot. Or how do I join them up?

I still want to build my own track in some of the sharp curve bits, and even if I use the C&L Finescale flexi track I would like to lay this against a Templot reference.

I'm just starting out again with building a layout, and I really want to build my own track using Templot, but I can't seem to see how I produce the template for the whole layout. I know some people say / seem to do it by eye but I'm not confident enough to do this.

I have followed advice and have bought a C&L point to make ( so that I have made a kit version first).

Thanks in advance

Mike

posted: 1 Jul 2012 20:08

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Robert Preston
 
Wirral - United Kingdom

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Hi,

I'm in the same situation – using 00-SF with home-made turnouts and bought-in flexi track for the in-between bits. I've just set it all up for 00-SF and laid the flexi track to the template. Doesn't seem to cause any problem. Incidentally, the first bit of track I made in 00-SF was a cross-over on a curve and it was a doddle (mind you, you must have all the gauges) and all the locos run over it fine.

Robert Preston

posted: 1 Jul 2012 20:27

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Mike,

Welcome to Templot Club. :)

Most 00-SF modellers would design the whole layout in 00-SF. There is no actual need to use 16.5mm flexi-track if you don't want to. Plain track can be constructed for 00-SF in the same way as pointwork, and the 3-point 00-SF track gauge tools will give you gauge-widening where needed on sharp curves.

Alternatively you can lay 16.5mm flexi-track to the same centre-lines, regarding it as pre-gauge-widened if you wish.

If you want some of the templates to be exactly 16.5mm, it's easy. Design the layout in 00-SF first. Then select the relevant templates as a group, and click the gauge > other gauges... menu item. On the list dialog select 00-BF and then click the convert group button at the top. But I don't think this will really make much practical difference for tracklaying, as Robert mentioned.

If you have purchased a C&L turnout kit, bear in mind that the track gauge tools supplied with it are for the DOGA-Fine standard, they are not suitable for 00-SF. To build 00-SF pointwork you should discard those gauge tools and obtain the 00-SF gauge tools from Brian Tulley.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 1 Jul 2012 22:15

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mikegriff
 
North Wales - United Kingdom

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Thanks for the feedback - I think I understand. If on the scenic bit where I need/want 00-SP and so by default have a min curve of 750mm and if I'm less than that then it all goes Red.Do I just ignore the warning on the non scenic bits? BUT how do I know if I have exceeded the "Peco 00" limits? I assume I will get used to the warnings. Martin you say that Plain track can be constructed for 00-SF in the same way as pointwork, and the 3-point 00-SF track gauge tools will give you gauge-widening where needed on sharp curves. will this hold true for 3rd and 4th radii PECO style?Might be a silly question but if I get it wrong then the layout wont fit the space I assume.Thanks for the heads up about the gauges.I think I have that all covered thanks to Brian's excellent service.I'm still trying to master Templot once I have done that I assume it all becomes second nature.Thanks for the help.Mike
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posted: 3 Jul 2012 09:48

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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mikegriff wrote:
I think I understand. If on the scenic bit where I need/want 00-SF and so by default have a min curve of 750mm and if I'm less than that then it all goes Red. Do I just ignore the warning on the non scenic bits? BUT how do I know if I have exceeded the "Peco 00" limits?
Hi Mike,

The red warning is just for your convenience. The 750mm setting for 00-SF is arbitrary and you can set it to whatever you want by clicking the change... button below it. Different types of layout need a different setting -- the minimum radius for fast running lines and express passenger locomotives is not the same as the minimum for a gasworks layout or a dock shunting engine. The limit can be set separately for each template as required when track planning. I'm sorry, I do not know what you mean by the "Peco 00" limits.

Martin you say that plain track can be constructed for 00-SF in the same way as pointwork, and the 3-point 00-SF track gauge tools will give you gauge-widening where needed on sharp curves. Will this hold true for 3rd and 4th radii Peco style?
Well in theory yes, but 00-SF is not intended for such train-set radii. It is essentially a variant of EM. If you need to use such sharp curves in the hidden sections I would recommend using 16.5mm flexi-track there or even the fixed set-track pieces. If you use the change... button as above you can set the red warning limit to the Peco radius below which you don't want to stray. Or just set 500mm as a general sensible bottom limit for 00 gauge.

regards,

Martin.



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