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Folks,

Found this picture of something that I've seen mostly leading into and along bridges and trestles. I have heard them called "Center ReRails". To me, they look like extreme or super guard rails, except for the larger flangeway.

I have been wondering if something like this be used as a more prototypical re-railer than the hokey sectional pieces used for getting model train cars railed properly.

Assuming something like this could be useful, is there any way of creating it in Templot2?

Mark C



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Hi Mark.
Yes it can be created in Templot. Attached is the box file for an English equivalent that I did for someone recently. The principle can be adapted to your example by using short straight end rails, putting the peg on the inner rail ends and rotating them to the desired angle.
Tony.

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Hi Mark, Tony

You can also do this with a single template - see the attached box file.  I created a straight turnout, then real=>adjust check rails on the main road to lengthen them by about 6" (in this case),  and change the flare length whilst you're there.  Move the peg up past the crossing then blank up to peg.  Finally, gauge=>modify current settings=>adjust flangeway gap.  I set it to about 6".

There you go - one pair of centre re-rails as a single template.

Sorry this is a bit of a quick explanation, but I'm supposed to be working :D



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Hi Paul.
Ingenious!
Tony.

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Paul,

Thanks for the reply.

I did what you said. It took me a while to figure out what to do with the Notch to get the resulting template to join properly (I hadn't put the notch under the peg before moving the peg, so the notch was at the diverging angle).

I then wanted to make a mirror image template so I could join the two to create a double ended Center Re-rail plan. When I did Template/Swap End-for-End, puff, the entire turnout re-appeared (see below) and I had to Blank Up To Peg, again.



Is there any way to lose the hidden info so I can duplicate it as just a single ended Center Re-Rail template? I can certainly work with this as is, just curious.

Mark C.

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Hi Mark,

It's actually much better to do this on the approach track to a turnout rather than the exit track as Paul has it.

Then you don't need any blanking (so the turnout part won't reappear), and the normal peg positions CTRL-0 and CTRL-1 can be used.

After extending the two check rail ends MS1 and TS1 back into the approach length, put the peg on CTRL-1 and then do > snap to peg menu item.

Change the template length with F3 mouse action rather than F4.





Bear in mind that it is still actually a turnout template rather than plain track, so the menu items and dialogs will reflect this.

regards,

Martin.

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Hi Martin

Thanks for that!  I think I've always used the exit track because it seemed easier to adjust the check rails at that end with the older versions of Templot, but that simply doesn't apply with Templot 2 with its mouse actions to adjust check rails!

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Martin,

Thanks for the tip on using the Approach instead of the Exit track. Worked just fine. I have even used this technique to create a template to simulate a bumper track that I have designed for the end of sidings.



Here's a picture of the actual bumper track before painting.



Thanks again for your terrific support.

Mark C
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Detail from old BR standard drawing showing the layout of rails at the start of a set of guard rails. Current from the 1950's to date. On bi directional lines there should be a set of collecting rails on both ends of the guard rails. The guard rails should extend about 60' off the bridge to be protected at both ends, but often don't.

Up until a few years ago all the sleepers under the guard and collecting rails would have been timber. But in the last couple of years steel sleepers have become available for the guard rails, and concrete bearers for both guard and collecting rails.
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