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topic: 2165Changing Prototype
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posted: 21 Feb 2013 03:37

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Laidlaym
 
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Usual new user here.  I want to see if the characteristics of the turnouts of my prototype railway are available in Templot.  I am guessing they are not.  If so, where do I set up such characteristics or is that not possible in Templot?
I model the Victorian Railways (Australia), it’s a 5’3” prototype but I am using HO 16.5 at this time, maybe 18.2 in the future as some others have done.
 
Mark

posted: 21 Feb 2013 04:27

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Laidlaym wrote:
I want to see if the characteristics of the turnouts of my prototype railway are available in Templot. I am guessing they are not. If so, where do I set up such characteristics or is that not possible in Templot?
Hi Mark,

Welcome to Templot Club. :)

The default settings in Templot are based on UK-pattern bullhead standard-gauge track.

There is no "pick list" of other prototypes because there would be hundreds or even thousands of them world-wide. Each one must be set up by the user as required -- for which you need to know the prototype data, ideally from prototype track drawings. However, you may find that someone has already done your prototype and is willing to share their Templot files. So it would be worth asking on here about that first. 

See this topic for some details about how to customize Templot for a specific prototype. It includes a downloadable video:

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Note that the video was done using Templot version 091c and is 5 years old. Some of the menu items have changed in the current version, and extra functions are now available. For example check rails (guard rails) can now be easily adjusted by mouse action. And flat-bottom rails can be printed with the foot edge lines on the templates. 

If you have only just started with Templot, I would recommend becoming familiar with some of the basics before attempting a full prototype customization. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 25 Feb 2013 02:50

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Laidlaym
 
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Thanks Martin, I have made some progress and have avoided created VR specific turnouts for the moment.  I am battling to create a double cross-over with 45mm track centres in 16.5. I can lay four turnouts with lots of overlap to look like a double cross-over but I haven't actually inserted the crossing in the middle.  I must be able to integrate the crossing into the turnout but haven't worked out how as yet.

I must be using limited functionality because the only way I can create a second turnout is to "mirror on peg" then modify that, is there an easier way?

I must be missing the guide that I need for such basic stuff.

Mark in Melbourne.


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posted: 25 Feb 2013 03:18

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Mark,

That's very good for a first go with Templot. Starting off with a scissors crossover is nothing if not ambitious. :)

1. You should set your desired 45mm TS centres at tools > adjacent track centres... before you begin.

Then the basic procedure to create an outline scissors crossover is:

2. do > turnout road > crossover

3. put the peg on TXP (CTRL-5)

4. do > snap to peg

5. tools > make mirror on peg     

6. tools > make simple crossover

7. do > snap to peg

8. tools > make mirror on peg

9. store & background

That works starting with a straight or curved turnout, and gets you all the essential rail alignments. To create the centre diamond-crossing do tools > make branch track on both of the turnouts on one side, and then peg/align tools > make diamond-crossing at their intersection.

Then split out all the partial templates to create a neat result.

There is quite a lot more to say about scissors crossovers. For example only certain angles work at any given track spacing to ensure all V-crossings can be properly checked. You can also change between type 1 and type 2 scissors by adjusting the crossing entry straight on the turnouts. There is a recently introduced feature to offset the track centre-line to the double-track centre position as a guide when doing this.

I will try to get a bit of video done tomorrow showing these adjustments.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 25 Feb 2013 05:38

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Laidlaym
 
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That went ok until the last step "peg/align tools > make diamond-crossing at their intersection."  Because I have the track centres at 45mm the branch tracks don't intersect so the diamond forms at the wrong spot.

Mark

posted: 26 Feb 2013 11:11

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Laidlaym
 
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I did it in S4 and T55 and it worked so I tried again in H0 and it worked, I have a diamond in the middle.

Now I just need to learn about cleaning up.

Thanks

posted: 26 Feb 2013 17:17

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Martin Wynne
 
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Hi Mark,

This topic has moved away from customizing for your VR prototype, so I have created a separate topic for scissors crossovers and partial templates.

I'm working on a full tutorial, but it will take several days to prepare. In the meantime you can download the final result and take it apart at:

topic 2167

To see and extract the partial templates, hold down the SHIFT key (or put CAPS LOCK on) and run the mouse over the template name labels.

regards,

Martin.



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