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posted: 27 Feb 2013 11:10

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bowie87
 
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Hi, as stated in the Description it's my 1st time trying a P4 (Hand-built) gauge layout.

It is set in early 1934 as I want the full 'Great Western' on the side of my loco's rather that the small Shirtbutton.

I am limited for room, so the layout will be 2.85m x0.8m with a split at the 1.65m mark from the Left Hand side of the plan.

Now before I continue I'll point out that I do own a copy of the David Smith (GWSC) book of 'GWR Switch and crossing practice' and I have tried to get as close as possible to achieve
prototype track as I can with my limited knowledge of point work, timbering and templot.

I am hoping at building GWR Old Style 10' Loose Heel turnouts with joggles. Now the part that has got me worried.

On the attached Box file I am concerned that my turnouts won't have the clearance that should be 4.5'' (1.5mm) at the heel and stock rail. I measured it at 0.58mm,

Am I doing this correctly?
have I got it under gauge?
what am I doing wrong and how to fix it?
or am I just overracting to a novice mistake in calling an error when there isn't one :?

Thank you for any help that is offered

Andrew


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posted: 27 Feb 2013 12:21

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Andrew,

Welcome to Templot Club. :)

The heel offset is measured from gauge-face to gauge-face, it's not the gap between the rails. You seem to have it correct at 1.5mm.

I notice that you have changed the pre-set 10ft GWR switch from a timbered switch front to sleepered switch front as a custom switch. It's great to see the full range of Templot adjustments being used. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 27 Feb 2013 13:02

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Nigel Brown
 
 

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Hi Andrew

Couple of thoughts. Locomotives could go a long time before repaints, sometimes extremely so, so it's OK to have a layout set later than 1934 but still with the full Great Western on the sides. Jim Russell's Vol. 2 of GWR locos shows a picture of 8757 at Paddington in 1955 still with Great Western, just visible under the grime. This can be useful if you want some rolling stock which was only introduced after the roundel appeared. My layout is set in 1939 so that I can use any pre-WWII stock; I use a mixture of Great Western and roundels on the locos, depending largely on whim.

Re the clearance between heel and stock rails, unless the standards (both track and wheels) you use are dead-on what the prototype uses, scaled down, you will get problems with clearance here. One solution is to increase the length of the switch rail until the clearance becomes acceptable.

Cheers
Nigel

posted: 28 Feb 2013 09:49

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bowie87
 
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@Martin

Thank you for putting my mind at ease for the planning part, the real fun will start soon.

@Nigel

Yeah I knew about the long period between repaints as I've seen it in GWR Loco's Vol 2 and also pannier papers..well I can't remember which one, off the top of my head I think it was paper No.3. And thank you for the solution for the switch rail, I'll keep it as a back-up plan

Anyway thank you for the quick responses

Andrew



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