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topic: 2264Obtuse crossings and how they are timbered?
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posted: 21 Jul 2013 19:46

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LSWRArt
 
Antibes - France

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I am currently trying to build a crossing with a straight line crossing a curve.  At one end, the common crossing has an angle of  1:2.14.  The other end is nearer 1:3.
I found that 12" sleepers would not work for the 1:2 end and I have had to replace them with 14" wide sleepers, so that the chairs would hang off the edge of the sleeper.
So I wondered how the real railways sleepered crossings at even greater angles?
I am interested if anyone has any photos as it does not seem very obvious how to do it.
N.B.  This is not for a project - just for interest.
Regards, Arthur

posted: 21 Jul 2013 20:07

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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Hi Arthur

Have a look at the picture below of a short angle diamond for my in-progress layout.  It was based on the crossing at Highbridge where the S&D crossed the GWR main line.  This is an irregular diamond of around 1 in 1.9

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More pictures here.Cheers

posted: 21 Jul 2013 20:29

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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That's excellent Paul. :)

Arthur, diamond-crossings shorter than about 1:4 are usually built on waybeams (longitudinal timbers) as in Paul's example. Designs varied between companies and each one was normally created as a special. For details of a GWR 1:1 diamond-crossing, see:

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The timbering algorithm in Templot falls over below about 1:4, so you need to shove the timbers to match the drawing by widening them, twisting them round and crabbing them to lie under the rails as waybeams.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 22 Jul 2013 13:49

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Brian Nicholls
 
Poole - United Kingdom

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Hi All,

Does anyone have prototype photographs of such an obtuse crossing, showing the actual waybeams ?

If so please post here.

All the best.

Brian Nicholls.

posted: 22 Jul 2013 19:01

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LSWRArt
 
Antibes - France

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Thanks Paul and Martin

Interesting to see how it worked on the real railway and Paul's track looks really good. I struggle to produce much simpler trackwork.

All the best, Arthur

posted: 25 Jul 2013 17:15

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Phil O
 
Plymouth - United Kingdom

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Hi Brian

There are shed loads of photo's about showing Newcastle S & C where most of the station throat is on way beams.

Cheers Phil

posted: 25 Jul 2013 17:55

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Brian Nicholls
 
Poole - United Kingdom

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Hi Phil,

Many thanks for the pointer, will investigate the Newcastle station prototype.  :thumb:

All the best.

Brian Nicholls.



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