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posted: 8 May 2015 16:16

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Ian Bunch
 
 

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Does anybody have any information on the dimensions of Irish 3ft narrow gauge track?
Specifically sleeper dimensions and spacing.
A templot box file perhaps. Not really bothered about the scale, just something I can get accurate sizes from.
I've tried guessing from photos but I'd prefer to know for sure.
Thanks in advance

Ian

posted: 12 May 2015 08:48

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Phil O
 
Plymouth - United Kingdom

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Hi Ian

I have asked this question on here and several other forums and have never got an answer. What I have in my round tuit box is some photo's of some Isle of Man turnouts which need sorting and trying to turn into a template. I think this will be the only way to get any info on 3ft trackwork. The preserved railways in Ireland are using recycled standard gauge (5ft 3 ins)componets regauged to 3 foot. The Ilse of Man being the only source that i know of that still has original 3 ft track, I just hope it is not too disimilar to the Irish stuff.

Cheers Phil

posted: 12 May 2015 11:18

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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The usual dimensions for Irish 3ft gauge are:

sleepers 6ft long.

sleepers 9in wide.

spaced at 2ft-6in centres.

rail 60lb or 65lb / yard flat-bottom (sometimes called "contractor's rail", used by the contractors building the line). Often spiked directly to the sleepers without baseplates.

rail lengths 15ft - 30ft, often mixed.

Generally the companies sourced track materials from wherever they could, sometimes second-hand, so the lines were a mixture of all sorts after a some years of repairs.

There is a Yahoo group with useful information:

 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/irish_three_foot/conversations/messages

regards,

Martin.

posted: 12 May 2015 19:57

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asmay2002
 
Portsmouth - United Kingdom

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I suspect it varied a bit by Railway. Patterson gives the dimensions for the West Donegal (later CDRJC) as 45lb rail, 27feet long. Sleepers 6 feet long and 8" x 4" in section. Sleepers at 30" centres except at joints where they were 22". There may be similar details in his other books.
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posted: 12 May 2015 21:26

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Ian Bunch
 
 

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Thank you all. One supplementary question; is there some way of converting the rail weight into model code?
For instance I intend to model the CDR in 5.5mm scale, would 65lb/yd have an equivalent, like Code 75 or Code 100?

posted: 12 May 2015 22:15

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Ian,

65lb/yard flat-bottom rail is 4.11/16" tall. At 5.5mm/ft that scales to 0.085", i.e. Code 85.

60lb/yard flat-bottom rail is 4.1/2" tall. At 5.5mm/ft that scales to 0.081", i.e. Code 81.

Code 82 and Code 83 flat-bottom rail is available.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 12 May 2015 22:25

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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p.s. Ian,

Karlgarin Models have some specialist rail sections intended for narrow-gauge, see:

http://www.karlgarin.com/whatsnew.htm

Martin.

posted: 13 May 2015 08:15

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Jim Guthrie
 
United Kingdom

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And there's Andy May's page on the S Scale web site with the prototype dimensions of a huge range of rails.

http://www.s-scale.org.uk/rails.htm

Jim.



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