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topic: 2756Parallel Vees - how do I go from here?
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posted: 10 Oct 2015 21:05

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Jubilee42
 
Rødovre - Denmark

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I'm trying to use Templot to design my layout. I've cheated a bit by roughing it out in AnyRail, but without any proper turnouts, which I am planning on building myself. I've spent 6 or 7 hours with Templot and gone forwards and backwards in equal measure. I can see the potential, it's just utterly unlike any program I've used before!
Anyway, I've found a really useful function to create turnouts with parallel exits - brilliant!!

But I want to put another turnout on the turnout side,and it won't let me, because of the Vee I've used. can anyone give me a shove in the right direction?
Ta!
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posted: 10 Oct 2015 21:34

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi,

The parallel type of V-crossing is a bit of a legacy from years ago and not much used nowadays. As you can see it is limited in what you can do with it. I have left it in Templot because it can be very useful where you have a turnout in a transition curve (make return curve isn't available for transitions).

Try this:

1. change to a regular type V-crossing. (You can now in 212a click the green indicator at the top left of the trackpad until it changes to R.)

2. click tools > make branch track menu item.

3. curve it to your desired alignment (F6 mouse action).

4. insert turnout in it: template > insert turnout in plain track menu item.

In your case followed by

5. template > swap facing - trailing menu item.

6. CTRL+F9 mouse action to roam it into position.

( 3, 5, and 6 above are also available on the beginner buttons along the top right of the trackpad :) )

regards,

Martin.

posted: 11 Oct 2015 13:25

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Jubilee42
 
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Thanks! That was quick! Your reply was what I had tried before I discovered the parallel vee option. I will see if I can't get it to do what I want today. Thanks for your help!:thumb:

posted: 11 Oct 2015 14:08

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Jubilee42 wrote:
Your reply was what I had tried before I discovered the parallel vee option. I will see if I can't get it to do what I want today.
You may find that make return curve is more convenient than make branch track.

There is a very old tutorial on return curves which you may find helpful. See:

 http://templot.com/martweb/mintut1a.htm

Or perhaps not. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 11 Oct 2015 22:48

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Jubilee42
 
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Thanks Martin! I used the branch track option, and am now making some progress. After day 2 I am trawling through various help pages and the videos and forum, and things are starting to make sense. I've managed amongst other things a transition curve and several y-turnouts (although I'm not sure how - it just decided when I resized the turnout with the mouse that I should have a Y - which is just what I wanted!), and the track has stopped vanishing now I understand about the "background" and "storage box". Have you programmed all this yourself? How on earth did you do that, and how do you find the time to answer everybody's questions AND update the program???? Do you have strange superhuman powers???

posted: 11 Oct 2015 23:39

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Martin Wynne
 
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Jubilee42 wrote:
Have you programmed all this yourself?
Hi Richard,

Mostly yes, although not in 5 minutes. It is now 36 years since I started it. :)

16 years ago on the first public release of Templot I wrote some notes about its history, which are still on the web site, see:

 http://templot.com/martweb/templot_history.htm

They are overdue for an update.

Some parts of Templot were not written by me, they are bought-in components -- including the PDF engine, the sketchboard engine, the RTF editor for formatted text blocks on the sketchboard, and the HTML rendering engine. You can see a list of them at help > about Templot. Apart from the PDF engine I have the full source codes and have made lots of changes in them.

Also the Templot FBR Video Player comes from Blueberry Software, and the EXE version of the Templot Companion is from EC Software.

Thanks for the kind words.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 12 Oct 2015 08:33

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Jubilee42
 
Rødovre - Denmark

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What an absolutely fascinating read! I was impressed before, but staggered now! I have my deepest respect for your obvious abilities in both programming, engineering, railway modelling and it-support. And you give it all away for free! Thank you seems a completely inadequate response. But thank you anyway!

posted: 17 Oct 2015 23:43

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DerekStuart
 
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Martin, following Jubilee42's comments, can I ask- if it's not a secret of course- if I wanted to re-programme Templot from scratch (forgetting that even VBA taxes me) how big is the programme in terms of lines or characters or whatever.

The exe is incredibly frugal on hdd space and memory usage; considering the level of functionality it's surprising how small it is.

Derek

posted: 18 Oct 2015 00:48

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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DerekStuart wrote:
Martin, following Jubilee42's comments, can I ask- if it's not a secret of course- if I wanted to re-programme Templot from scratch (forgetting that even VBA taxes me) how big is the programme in terms of lines or characters or whatever.

The exe is incredibly frugal on hdd space and memory usage; considering the level of functionality it's surprising how small it is.
Hi Derek,

The compiler is currently showing 349,449 lines of code.

That's a fairly meaningless number, because it depends whether you write a few long lines or lots of short ones. :)

I will do a bit of delving and see if I can find the number of statements. I don't recall ever seeing such a figure in the compiler stats, but it should be in there somewhere.

The small size of the exe file is for two reasons mainly:

1. I don't use any Microsoft tools to create it.

2. It uses only the Windows Common Controls and traditional plain menus -- that's why it runs well on Linux / Wine / CrossOver. There are no fancy visual components such as the Microsoft Ribbon.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 19 Oct 2015 00:07

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DerekStuart
 
United Kingdom

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Pre Eminent Professor of Templotology indeed!

Whilst not a direct comparison by any stretch of the imagination, I write our company website in notepad and the output at the end is usually about half the size of a similar page from dreamweaver or similar and subsequently loads faster, so I can understand what you mean about MS tools.



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