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topic: 2763Tandem turnout and locking switches
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posted: 24 Oct 2015 22:32

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Jubilee42
 
Rødovre - Denmark

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Hello Templotters!

I have got so confident with my turnouts, that I've decided to draw the tandem turnout I need. I have noted that Martin warns beginners like me to try something simpler, but it all seemed to be going so well to start with! By following the video I have managed to get the two separate turnouts drawn and to put them on top of each other:
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It is shown here as the control. The next phase it to lengthen and turn it a bit so it lies on the underlying rails. To this end I am supposed to allow any sort of vee to be created, which I've done, and to lock the switch, which is not an option I can choose:
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What have I missed? I'm not at all sure what "Lock switch" means. This might be the reason I can't quite work out what to do. I've tried resizing the control without locking the switch and it just disappears off to the left.  I've tried various searches for "lock switch" in various parts of the Templot universe but without luck.Any ideas would therefore be appreciated!

posted: 24 Oct 2015 23:34

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Richard,

Normally when using the F5 mouse action, Templot changes the switch size to keep it a sensible size for use with the changing V-crossing angle.

If you right-click while the F5 mouse action is active you can click lock switch to override this and prevent the switch changing. The menu item is disabled when the F5 mouse action is not active.

All of which is completely out of date and irrelevant, because you should no longer be using the F5 mouse action to adjust the middle V-crossings of tandem turnouts. It is now much easier to use the F9 mouse action instead, which doesn't affect the switch.

Furthermore, you may not have a switch to lock. For the middle V-crossing in a tandem turnout it is now usually much more convenient to use a partial irregular half-diamond or a gaunt turnout template, neither of which have a switch.

All of which illustrates how out-of-date the tandem video is. I have more than once been on the point of deleting it, but hesitated because I simply don't have anything ready with which to replace it. See: 

 topic 2418 - message 16361

I really sorry about this situation, and to be honest I'm approaching despair in ever getting the Templot docs sufficiently finished before most users just give up.

If you search for tandem turnouts on this forum you will find dozens of results, some of them out-of-date. But this topic is a good read:

 topic 2394 - message 16119

If you use a gaunt turnout for the middle V-crossing, this post may be helpful:

 topic 1487

But it's more likely that an irregular half-diamond will fit better, in which case use the F10 and F9 mouse actions to adjust it.

Remember that the middle V-crossing needs to be a curviform pattern.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 25 Oct 2015 00:14

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Jubilee42
 
Rødovre - Denmark

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Hi Martin
Please don't dispair! As I have written previously, I find it hard to fathom how you have managed to create and support Templot on your own for decades. It is an astonishingly clever program, and you are clearly a man of quite extraordinary talents. You are doing the work of a whole bunch of programmers and being an incredible almost synchronous helpdesk all on your own! So please, please don't dispair!

I shall read all the links, and see how I get on. However, with each hurdle I read a bit more and get a better "feel" of Templot. Thank you!!

posted: 25 Oct 2015 00:28

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Richard,

Thanks for the kind words. :)

This post contains a commentary on the old tandem video which may be useful:

 topic 707 - message 4150

Also John Preston wrote a tutorial for tandems. It can be downloaded from:

john_preston_tandem_part1.pdf

john_preston_tandem_part2.pdf

(4 pages in each part)

All the above is out of date for Templot2, but may be helpful.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 25 Oct 2015 00:32

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Jubilee42
 
Rødovre - Denmark

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Ta!

posted: 25 Oct 2015 01:20

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Trevor Walling
 
United Kingdom

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Hello Martin,
               
I really sorry about this situation, and to be honest I'm approaching despair in ever getting the Templot docs sufficiently finished before most users just give up
Please don't despair  as I  can assure you that something as brilliant as Templot is not something one gives up on as the rewards from it far outweigh the result of any thing else in this field. I think your creation of Templot exceeds everyone's requirements as it is .
Regards.
Trevor.:)

posted: 12 Nov 2015 17:46

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Adrian Winterbone
 
Meppershall - United Kingdom

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I couldn't agree more with the above sentiments!
This topic has all the answers I was looking for, as I'd come up against the same stumbling block as Jubilee42.

Thanks!



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