click here for a list of all existing Templot documentation
about Templot Club cookie information pre-print options:    

click image to open Templot Club in a new tab
Templot club top logo
looking for Templot? - (free)



 you are not logged in  - Login | Join


receive all messages by email: info


Recent Topics
Front Page  Search  Image Gallery  Gallery Upload  My Account  Members  Help  
make a donation  
please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors Templot Companion - User Guide
            messages archive on Yahoo
page trail:  Templot Club > Forums > Templot talk > Templot Companion - work in progress
Templot web site

                                       Templot Companion - work in progress
  Page:  First Page Previous Page  1  2  3       
 Start new topic   Reply blank   Printer friendly 
  Rate this topic  
AuthorMessage
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
81st message | this message only posted: 31 Jan 2018 22:04
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Trevor Walling
United Kingdom

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
Hello,
And me too.
Regards.
Trevor.:)
__________
message ref: 23702

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
82nd message | this message only posted: 1 Feb 2018 07:09
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Martin Wynne
West Of The Severn, United Kingdom



view images in gallery
view images as slides

Please do not send requests for help direct to me via email or PM.

Post your questions on the forum where everyone can see them and add helpful replies.
FraserSmith wrote:I fully understand your need to do this only once and I think you could (should) freeze Templot in its present state. Others may like to offer their support for this idea. It currently allows users to do everything that they could possibly want to do now that you have automatic slip and tandem turnout functions. I can't imagine what else people could possibly want.Hi Fraser, and everyone,

Thanks for that. :)

I said I needed to do a think and I've thunk. I'm not going to change Templot's working method to make it more like Microsoft or Apple or Unix or anything else. Mainly because I have been unable to properly understand what that would mean in relation to model track planning. Templot developed the way it did because it was the best way I could find to carry out the desired task.

So yes I'm going to try very hard to freeze it in its present state, at least as far as any changes which would affect the Templot Companion and videos. Adding the second row of beginner buttons and the STOP button on the mouse action panel made it necessary to redo the first Templot Explained video, and mean that a lot of quite recent screenshots etc. are already out of date.

The two big questions you have to deal with are a) whether you can ignore the lure of another bit of programming and b) can you ignore at least some of the requests for help? That doesn't mean there won't be additions, rather than changes. I do need a programming fix occasionally. :)

There are plenty of things still on my NOD list. Make outside slip and make scissors crossover would be nice. Of course those and the slips and tandems are not really new functions, just a convenient shortcut to using the existing ones. In a similar vein would be an easier way for narrow-gauge modellers to get started.

In the entirely new category would be more up-to-date support for flat-bottom track. At present we stop short at renewals before about 1970. The vertical 1432mm designs aren't covered at all. When I started on Templot that was so recent that only a very few were modelling it. Nowadays it is ancient history.

Then there is the embarrassingly primitive BGS background shapes format, which has been pushed beyond what was sensible. It should have been scrapped and replaced with something more capable years ago. The sketchboard was an attempt to do that, but missed the mark in many ways, so that we now have the two running side-by-side without any proper integration between the two.

Yes I do often ignore requests for help, especially if they come as direct emails. I haven't got time to write explanations which can't be seen by everyone. Also there are many requests for help on RMweb and other forums where the style of modelling or prototype are beyond anything I know about, and I don't feel I can say anything useful. Getting the Companion up to date will make it a lot easier to deal with other requests, if I can simply post a link. That was generally the case in the early years of Templot, I want to get back to that happy state if I can.

Thanks again for the feedback. February already. I need to get on with the Companion before the sun starts shining.

cheers,

Martin.

__________
message ref: 23703

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
83rd message | this message only posted: 1 Feb 2018 09:42
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Charles Orr
Leicester, United Kingdom

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
Martin,

That is really good to hear.  

I think you have made a very sensible decision.

Charles

__________
message ref: 23704

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
84th message | this message only posted: 1 Feb 2018 12:08
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Godfrey Earnshaw
 

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
Martin,
Let me second that.
I have just subscribed to Spotify and believe me there is nothing natural about it, despite it being made for mobile phone, PC etc
You just have to get to it and learn all the moves.

Godders
__________
message ref: 23705

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
85th message | this message only posted: 1 Feb 2018 13:14
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Phil O
Plymouth, United Kingdom



view images in gallery
view images as slides
Martin,

Glad to hear that you have made a decision on the way forward and I hope that you don't get to side tracked until you think you have made sufficient progress.

Phil
__________
message ref: 23706

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
86th message | this message only posted: 1 Feb 2018 16:28
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Rob Manchester
 

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
Martin,

I am in 100% agreement with your plan. I am also in hope that you are right and we do get some sun this year !

Good luck

Rob


__________
message ref: 23707

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
87th message | this message only posted: 1 Feb 2018 19:23
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Andrew Barrowman
USA

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
When Martin started developing Templot I doubt if he was expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

:D
__________
message ref: 23708

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
88th message | this message only posted: 1 Feb 2018 20:00
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Martin Wynne
West Of The Severn, United Kingdom



view images in gallery
view images as slides

Please do not send requests for help direct to me via email or PM.

Post your questions on the forum where everyone can see them and add helpful replies.
Andrew Barrowman wrote: When Martin started developing Templot I doubt if he was expecting the Spanish Inquisition. :)

I don't remember "expecting" anything at all. Except perhaps eye-strain.

Bear in mind that the internet hadn't been invented (or at least, we knew nothing about it), and the program code was stored on an audio cassette tape. That in itself being a huge leap forward from the punched paper tape I had been using a few years earlier. I remember buying a brand new cassette player and drilling a hole in the side for a DIN socket.

Here's something I have posted before:



WEST MERCIAN EM GROUP NEWSLETTER, SEP 1980

"Our last meeting, held at Broadwas Village Hall on 7th Sep 1980, was one of the liveliest we have had. Ten members were present and among matters discussed were
....
....

A most interesting development was then described by Martin Wynne.

Neville Fairbairn had asked Martin for help in setting out a turnout from a curved road. From this request Martin had gone on to devise a system for enabling any turnout to be drawn out on 1mm graph paper by even the most inexperienced.

Given the radius of the main line, the crossing angle and switch type, Martin can supply the X and Y co-ordinates of the rail running face at every chair position. From this data it is easy to construct a turnout template, indeed Martin did it in about 20 minutes, explaining as he went.

Thus the days of track plans being juggled to suit the templates available from commercial sources are over - pointwork can now be made to suit the site as was done in full-size practice.

Needless to say the figures for the various offsets are produced by a micro-computer, using a program written by Martin. This must be one of the most interesting developments in modelling in recent years.
"



Kind words there from the late Roy Miller. What would Roy have made of Templot today? But 20 solid minutes poring over 1mm graph paper! For one template! With my eyes nearly 40 years older I can understand why there were so few takers at the time.

By the way, Roy was the inventor of "EM minus 2", now popular as 00-SF (4-SF in Templot).

cheers,

Martin.

__________
message ref: 23709

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
89th message | this message only posted: 1 Feb 2018 21:31
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Charles Orr
Leicester, United Kingdom

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
Martin,

That is classic content.

Coincidentally exactly the same scale that I am currently using to construct my Magnum Opus.

Charles

__________
message ref: 23710

 
This is topic ID = 3197     Page created at 23:17 (local time) Page:  First Page Previous Page  1  2  3     
You can type a quick reply to this topic here.

Click in the box to begin.


But to reply to an individual message, or to include images, attachments and formatted text, use the reply buttons on each message above.

To start a new topic in this forum, click the Start new topic button below.
To start a new topic in a different forum, click the Forum Jump drop-down list below.

             Start new topic 

 click to jump to a different forum:     Back to top of page

Templot Club > Forums > Templot talk > Templot Companion - work in progress
about Templot Club

list recently active topics Templot Companion - User Guide - A-Z Index Old Templot Companion Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors.
indexing link for search engines only

back to top of page


Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to this web site are copyright and the property of the respective contributor. You are welcome to use them for your own personal non-commercial purposes, and in your messages on this web site. If you want to publish any of this material elsewhere or use it commercially, you must first obtain the owner's permission to do so.

The small print: All material submitted to this web site is the responsibility of the respective contributor. By submitting material to this web site you acknowledge that you accept full responsibility for the material submitted. The owner of this web site is not responsible for any content displayed here other than his own contributions. The owner of this web site may edit, modify or remove any content at any time without giving notice or reason.
Problems with this web site? Contact webmaster@templot.com.   This web site uses cookies: click for information.  
© 2017  

Powered by UltraBB - © 2009 Data 1 Systems