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Hi Martin,

Yes, looks like you slipped up on the Cleehill map :D Must check your methodology next time....

Here is Bucknell now ( well 2009 actually ) courtesy of Google.


Must have been an active goods trade with the goods shed ( still there ) and a travelling crane for the timber yard .



Always surprised to find that the lines around here were LNWR.

Rob

P.S. What about captions on the slideshow ? If all the pics in yours had been new to us there would have been many questions asked about locations.



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Rob Manchester wrote: P.S. What about captions on the slideshow ? If all the pics in yours had been new to us there would have been many questions asked about locations.Hi Rob,

I'm just working on that as we speak. It's actually quite tricky to get the captions to fade in and out long enough to be readable, but then leave the image uncluttered.

I don't think I made it clear enough that that first video was just a trial play with the AV software to see what I could do with it, and more importantly to see how many cries of "what a load of rubbish" went up. :)

Having been encouraged by the response (I posted the link on RMweb too), and enjoying being a bit creative, I will now spend some time creating something a bit more polished. At least it is keeping me away from that damned OSM, which would take over my life if I let it. :)

Martin.

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I was confused by the brilliant shots of the Corsair, the Victor and the washing.
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Martin Wynne wrote:



That's a great shot. This is the first time I have seen it, 50 years after taking it. :)

Where are they now I wonder? I hope they are ok.
Here they are again:



What a great playground they had - summer school holidays 1969, in the sunshine. :)

I'm now fairly confident that this was No.2 incline at Maen-offeren. Based on my hazy recollection of a day 50 years ago, but now also finding this showing the twin power poles still in position (11 years ago):

 https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/564963

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Hi Martin,

Yes, they are lovely pics.

The wagons are certainly similar to many of the Festiniog area types from pictures I have seen. The pictures imply they usually ran with maybe one out of every 3 or 4 with a brake fitted.

Is this the top of the incline here ?


Were the rails at the top of an incline secured in any special way to prevent them slipping down ?


Rob



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Rob Manchester wrote: Is this the top of the incline here ?Hi Rob,

Yes. If you click on the map on that page it will swap to the earlier 25K mapping which shows the track still in place.

Here's my 1969 view down the incline for comparison:



And here's another one of the drum house which confirms the match with the previous Geograph photo (only just found this one):



I have several more taken the same day, although the quality is a bit variable. I will post them all soon.

Here's the incline in 1899:

 https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=53.0018&lon=-3.9223&layers=168&b=1

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Hi Martin,

Thanks for that. We are very lucky to have such photos for you to share and appreciate and the internet resources to tie them all together. If only the development of the photographic process had happened earlier.......and been in more widespread use.

Rob


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Absolutely fascinating. Especially the one down the incline. Thanks for posting, Martin.

Dave
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Rob Manchester wrote:P.S. What about captions on the slideshow ? If all the pics in yours had been new to us there would have been many questions asked about locations.Hi Rob,

I have now added captions to the slideshow. Press the ENTER key to toggle a scrollable list of captions on and off:

 http://85a.uk/photos/

I have also added a few more pics, and made a few other changes.

Click the video to stop and start while reading the caption list. We don't have a streaming media server, so it's necessary to wait until the show has run through once before the frame slider will work properly.

If it doesn't fit your screen, try pressing F11. There is also a full-screen option on the bottom right.

If the ENTER key doesn't work, try clicking on the video first.

If the captions are not working on mobile devices, they can be opened in a separate page tab here:

  http://85a.uk/photos/fresh_air_captions.php

The caption list includes OS grid references. If you copy them, you can paste them into the search box at:

 https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk

I have entered the full 5-figure grid references, which is a bit daft because they read to the nearest metre. But I found rounding them to the usual 3-figures produced some silly results, placing me in the middle of a canal or on the wrong side of the tracks. :(

I have changed the music, but I can't find anything better which is free to use. Suggestions for such welcome.

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Hi Martin,

Thanks for adding the captions and grid refs, both are helpful. Some nice new pics I haven't seen before too.

I don't like the music :( but we all like different things which is fair enough.  What was the music used on the original version ?

The shot of Worcester depot was taken from the Tunnel Junction side judging by the position of the cathedral. Do you have any pictures of the wagon sheet facility or wagon repair works - there is one in a Russell Great Wagon book ( which I have all of ) and I found another couple but anything else would be great.

The pit sheave memorial picture is almost identical to one I took a while back. I will post mine if I can find it. BTW Shapeways now sell sheaves for anybody modelling a mine.

Rob




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Rob Manchester wrote: Hi Martin,

Thanks for adding the captions and grid refs, both are helpful. Some nice new pics I haven't seen before too.

I don't like the music :( but we all like different things which is fair enough.  What was the music used on the original version ?

The shot of Worcester depot was taken from the Tunnel Junction side judging by the position of the cathedral. Do you have any pictures of the wagon sheet facility or wagon repair works - there is one in a Russell Great Wagon book ( which I have all of ) and I found another couple but anything else would be great.
Hi Rob,

Sorry to confuse you. That B&W pic was actually a colour neg original from the mid 1980s, not from 1969 as the other B&W pics. By then I suspect the wagon works was long gone. It was taken from the steps of Tunnel Junction Signal Box. I can't remember why I thought it was worth converting to greyscale. :?

Here are some others of the area taken at the same time, scanned from prints:

 http://85a.co.uk/images/tunnel_junc_pics.jpg

(large image, click link)

If you can see anything in the background which might be useful, I will search out the negs and scan them properly, and maybe find some others.

The new music tracks came from the YouTube catalogue of free music. I don't much like it either, and most of the catalogue is even worse. Unfortunately any music of reasonable quality requires a paid-for licence to use.

The original music track was supplied as a default with the AV software, and has the memorable name of PT_286154.mp3

You can hear it again on their promo video at:

 https://www.youtube.com/embed/wRz43Yc3r8w?rel=0&autoplay=1

cheers,

Martin.

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Hi Martin,

Thanks for the music info :)

I should have been more clear about the wagon and sheet shops. I didn't really think you would have been around when they were active and in use. Just wondered if you had taken any from the other end of the yard area facing north from around Tolladine Road. Just looking for ideas for future layouts - a wagon repair shop is ideal as an excuse for for lots of different wagons in various states of decay.

Tunnel junction box looks to have suffered a mishap - an errant wagon in the siding maybe ? Your picture seems to show what looks like a concrete 'ram raid' device in front of the rebuilt brickwork. Here is the box in 2015.

If you hadn't chopped the DMU off the side of the B&W shot on the slide show I would have known it was at least late 70's as the livery is blue and grey :D

Rob



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Rob Manchester wrote: Tunnel junction box looks to have suffered a mishap - an errant wagon in the siding maybe ?Hi Rob,

The siding is actually the trap spur on the exit crossover from the shed:



I recall some time in 60s or 70s a loco was too eager to get off the shed, and delivered the buffer stop into the signal box locking room instead. Someone will know the details -- perhaps "The Stationmaster" on RMweb?

I don't remember taking any pics around the Tolladine Road area at that time, but I will have a look through my negs.

cheers,

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