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posted: 17 Oct 2018 16:06 |
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Martin Wynne
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posted: 17 Oct 2018 20:42 |
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Martin Wynne
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Looking hot and dusty now with overhead sun at mid-day, CA time.
At 8am this morning (4pm UK) the low morning sun was lighting up a dramatic landscape, with several trains stationary and backing up.
Martin.
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posted: 17 Oct 2018 22:07 |
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Charles Orr
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I visit this site regularly.
There are some incredibly long trains.
Charles
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posted: 17 Oct 2018 23:09 |
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John Lewis
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Hi NMartin
When I click on the url you gave earlier I get a view on hilly/mountainous country at West Cable, Tehachapi. But I have not seen a train or the railway. Am I doing something wrong? There seem to be at least a couple of roads in the foreground and a busy freeway in the middle distance.
John
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posted: 17 Oct 2018 23:40 |
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Matt M.
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HI John,
It is a live feed. You only see what is going on at that moment.
Regards, Matt M.
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posted: 17 Oct 2018 23:44 |
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Rob Manchester
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John Lewis wrote: Hi NMartin
When I click on the url you gave earlier I get a view on hilly/mountainous country at West Cable, Tehachapi. But I have not seen a train or the railway. Am I doing something wrong? There seem to be at least a couple of roads in the foreground and a busy freeway in the middle distance.
John John,
It was a live feed but is currently a 'normal' video. You can move the time slider at the bottom and watch the estimated train time to catch a glance of one of the 'big trains'. Slide over to about 17:30 into the video.
Rob
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posted: 17 Oct 2018 23:48 |
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Martin Wynne
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John Lewis wrote: Hi NMartin
When I click on the url you gave earlier I get a view on hilly/mountainous country at West Cable, Tehachapi. But I have not seen a train or the railway. Am I doing something wrong? There seem to be at least a couple of roads in the foreground and a busy freeway in the middle distance.
John Hi John,
The "roads" in the foreground are in fact a double-track railway.
If you haven't done so, click the "full-screen" icon at the bottom right of the video: [ ].
It's a wide landscape view, maybe you need a larger screen?
When I posted the link, there was a constant stream of very long freight trains through the scene, after one of them had been stationary across the scene for about 2 hours. Causing following trains to back up one after another. It was also in very atmospheric early morning low sunlight. Right now the scene is empty and boring.
Tomorrow I will try again around 4pm UK time and post a screenshot.
cheers,
Martin.
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posted: 17 Oct 2018 23:55 |
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Matt M.
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Hi Rob,
I have to admit I've given up on moving the slider around on long videos.
It takes forever to sort itself out and the loading circle is annoying.
Internet connection here is average.
Matt M.
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posted: 17 Oct 2018 23:58 |
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Rob Manchester
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John,
As you may note the gradient is downhill to the left of the screen - hence the trucks moving left to right on the freeway are much slower paced. The trains moving downhill are using the dynamic brakes to keep the speed down to a safe level - those are heavy trains! Dynamic brakes use the axle traction motors to brake the train and dump the power into big resistor grids which are in turn cooled by roof mounted fans. If it were an electrified railroad the power generated could be fed back to power other trains.
Rob
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 00:15 |
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Rob Manchester
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Charles Orr wrote: I visit this site regularly.
There are some incredibly long trains.
Charles
Hi Charles,
Listening to the train radio one of the uphill trains is reported as being 14570 and 8817 on the length. That is 14,750 tons and 8,817 feet long - that is a lot of train. They have lay-by sidings to take the whole length of the trains in case of issues with a locomotive or freight car.
Rob
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 16:51 |
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Martin Wynne
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Martin Wynne wrote: Tomorrow I will try again around 4pm UK time and post a screenshot. Here are some screenshots from today's morning sunlight train show:
Sorry, I don't know what copyright to attribute on these. Captured from YouTube.
Martin.
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 21:08 |
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John Lewis
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Thanks very much to Martin and Rob for explaining what I was looking at. I did wonder ifI was looking at the railroad, but thought it was too winding to be one. This mornings screen shots were really impressive, thank you Martin, I must watch at 4pm tomorrow.
The 'Live' camera is a video again, I foud the train at O:57 and teo more 1:54 and at 2:32. The last was a long stacked container train with 3 locos on the front and two more apparantly banking at the rear. It took about 8 minutes to pass (up hill)!
After my posting, I was inspired to try and find the scene on Google Earth. I eventually found Cable, Kern County, but could not work out where the camera was looking at. However, having identified the railroad, I realised just how winding it was.
Thank you again
John
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 21:22 |
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Rob Manchester
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John,
You will like this video - here - trains are speeded up a bit in some scenes to save us getting bored. Looks rather like a plan from a Model Railroaders book
Rob
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 21:36 |
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Another site says the camera is located at:
The camera is located on the west side of Cable in Tehachapi, approximately 6 miles east of the Tehachapi Loop, 35 miles east of Bakersfield (Tehachapi Loop and Bakersfield are to the left of the video image) and 20 miles west of Mojave (Downtown Tehachapi and Mojave are to the right of the video image).
From GoogleEarth, you can find Cable, CA and then zoom out a little and you can find Tehachapi, Bakersfield, and Mojave. The view, I think is at about 35.172 , -118.478
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 22:01 |
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Martin Wynne
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John Lewis wrote: After my posting, I was inspired to try and find the scene on Google Earth. I eventually found Cable, Kern County, but could not work out where the camera was looking at. However, having identified the railroad, I realised just how winding it was. Hi John,
Here's my entry in the competition:
Given the line of trees, and the need for the sun to rise in the east, I think the camera is in the building ringed.
I have now realised that the double-track becomes single just before the bridge -- which explains why westbound trains often wait there, conveniently sitting across the entire view.
Here it is on OSM:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/35.16944/-118.47628
Here are the Google links:
aerial:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@35.1691339,-118.4763625,914m/data=!3m1!1e3
streetview of camera location:
https://goo.gl/maps/1V74KinntQT2
cheers,
Martin.
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 22:29 |
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Martin Wynne
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John Durbetaki wrote: The view, I think is at about 35.172 , -118.478 Hi John,
I think we agree.
Martin.
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 22:39 |
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Martin Wynne wrote: I have now realised that the double-track becomes single just before the bridge -- which explains why westbound trains often wait there, conveniently sitting across the entire view. It is actually a single track line. The double track you see in the picture is a passing siding. The line is run by Union Pacific who kindly allows BNSF ( Burlington Northern Santa Fe ) to run there trains over it for a small payment. I don't think there are any other major railroads left operating in the area after all the mergers of the past 40 years.
Rob
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 22:57 |
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Martin Wynne
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Thanks Rob.
That drone video of the spiral is amazing.
Here is an OSM editor view, with contours:
The blue/white chain-dashed line following the railway is a local authority boundary (Golden Hills).
The diagonal red line is marked California High Speed Rail (proposed).
(The arbitrary zig-zag yellow line/border on the left is someone's idea of the limits of the residential area.)
cheers,
Martin.
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posted: 18 Oct 2018 23:56 |
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Rob Manchester
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Martin,
Many of the locos seen on the videos are GE C44-9W diesels rated at 4400hp each. BNSF has over 1500 of them  I think you could say that freight on the rails is pretty big business in the US.
While I find the big railroads good to watch my layouts are more likely to be of this kind of prototype. You will know Tim Warris of course.
Rob
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posted: 19 Oct 2018 08:43 |
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During my holiday to the States in September, a large number of the multiple headed freights had locos from more than one company and one triple header had locos from 3 different companies including CP. That was in the Chicago area.
Phil
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posted: 21 Oct 2018 01:52 |
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Martin Wynne
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And at the end of the day:
Martin.
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