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posted: 6 Nov 2019 02:23 from: Martin Wynne
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Graeme wrote:I am still profoundly ignorant of Templot from a user perspective, so I think I will wind my neck in for a few days and just play with the program and see what I can do with it. I will obviously not become an expert in that time, but I will probably increase my knowledge tenfold.Sure. I think you said that you are not only new to Templot but new to railway modelling in general? Which makes it a bit surprising that you found us, and all the more welcome for that. An outsider's first impressions can be very valuable.  99 new modellers out of 100 would be starting with commercial track such as Peco, and designing it in a pick-and-place program such as AnyRail: http://anyrail.com/ Or going for high-end stuff with full 3D representation and train running simulations: http://trackplanning.com/ Also in the pick-and-place field is open-source XTrackCAD, as old as http://www.xtrkcad.org/Wikka/HomePage http://sourceforge.net/projects/xtrkcad-fork/ There was some tentative talk of a link with Templot a couple of years ago, and you may have noticed I included some "XTC Connectors" in the Templot templates. But nothing more has come of it (yet). The above reads as if I'm trying to get rid of you! That's certainly not the case, I just felt you might like to see where we fit in the landscape. Hand-built track is very much a niche area within the mainstream hobby.cheers, Martin. |
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posted: 6 Nov 2019 11:43 from: Graeme
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Martin Wynne wrote: I think you said that you are not only new to Templot but new to railway modelling in general? Yes indeed. At the start of the year I stumbled on a video on YouTube (Everard Junction) which stunned me with the level of realism being created now. I thought static grass was just amazing. I watched all his videos (and many others) but did not really consider building anything. All the layouts I saw were just tail chasers, and I could not imagine sitting watching trains go round once the layout was built. That just seemed far too 'train set' for me. I was not smart enough to figure it out at the time, but what was disturbing me, I think, was that it was not realistic for a train to approach a particular station from one direction 27 times in a row. Then I stumbled on Timewaster and Inglenook and videos by Jenny Kirk showing a very compact switching layout and I thought building a puzzle layout would be fun AND produce something I could play with too. Then I discovered branchlines/shelf layouts and videos of David Hyde's lovely layout Deresley, and and in particular how he operates it and I realised that this was for me. I could see lasting interest in the realistic operation of a realistic model. I also watched a few videos of american layouts, where realistic operations is the whole point of the exercise. (Mind you, when you have a basement half the size of Yorkshire ...) So I read up all about couplings and build a controller for DC control using a circuit I found somewhere (which works surprisingly well) and learned about DCC and learned about ... and ... and ... Somewhere along the way, realism grew in importance, but I drew the line when I first saw track being hand laid. Straight track at that. It seemed mad to me. But I was drawn to that video. After about the 6th watching I started to think that might be a really satisfying thing to do. I found a video of someone hand-building point and found it fascinating. I did get a copy of XTrackCAD (expecting to use Peco track) and have used it quite a bit over the last year, and learned a lot from it, but when I found Templot I knew I had to hand-build my track. Not an option. I first saw your own writings helping out Michael Henfrey, whose videos I had also watched. That may have been how I found my way to Templot. I really don't recall. But I knew that it was the way forward for me. Anyway - apologies for a long and probably boring ramble about my personal journey, but for me the emphasis is on the Modelling, not on the Railway. I was not really all that interested in trains per se. At least I was not until now. in the last few months I have devoured all I can find on signalling systems, interlocks, etc etc etc and now your postings on the 'prototype' pages, for which I can't thank you enough - absolutely fascinating stuff. Cheers, graeme |
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posted: 6 Nov 2019 12:18 from: Martin Wynne
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Thanks for that Graeme. If you haven't seen it, you might like to look at Stoke Courtenay (40+ pages -- this one is just a sample): http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/112547-stoke-courtenay/page/34/ video full screen: http://www.youtube.com/embed/9g-Qr-u8YKE?rel=0 Are you more interested in industrial grit or green and pleasant land? No doubt others will post some links here. cheers, Martin. |
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posted: 6 Nov 2019 14:51 from: Graeme
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Martin Wynne wrote: ... you might like to look at Stoke Courtenay ...Stunning - thank you for that. I am from the North East, so my natural inclination is towards industrial - oh but those rural landscapes look so beautiful! Cheers, graeme |
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