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I have produced a Templot plan for a friend. Now he may like to include it in an article for a Model Railway journal. How does this fit with the Templot terms & conditions? Presumably an acknowledgement would be appropriate at least.
 
If its OK, any idea what file type would suit a publisher. PDF seems to give the best looking results on a screen.
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KeithArmes wrote: I have produced a Templot plan for a friend. Now he may like to include it in an article for a Model Railway journal. How does this fit with the Templot terms & conditions? Presumably an acknowledgement would be appropriate at least.
 
If its OK, any idea what file type would suit a publisher. PDF seems to give the best looking results on a screen.
Hi Keith,

Thanks for asking. I don't insist on an acknowledgement but "Plan prepared by Keith Armes using Templot" or some such statement would be nice. What you can't do is write "Copyright Keith Armes" on it because I retain copyright in the general look and feel of Templot designs.

Yes, a PDF file is best, unless the publisher requests otherwise. If you mean the track plan templates, use the output > export a file function and set a page size for the PDF sufficient to contain the whole plan in a single page.

That is one reason why Templot has its integrated PDF export, because most other PDF generators don't allow for such large page sizes.

If you mean a colourful layout plan from the sketchboard, use file > export PDF file... on the sketchboard menus. The PDF page size will correspond to the current sketchboard page size (showing on the yellow rulers). You can change that on the page tab on the sketchboard control panel dialog.

(Then click the lock option on the trackplan tab if you don't want the plan to expand to fit the new page size when you next swap to the trackpad and back.)

cheers,

Martin.

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Martin,
Thanks for your reply. That puts my mind at rest.

Best,
Keith
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Hi Martin,

Following on from Keith's question what is the situation if has a Templot plan for public viewing on a website ? ....and is it acceptable to offer a download of the BOX/BGS/etc files provided no charge is made for them ?

Rob


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Rob Manchester wrote: Following on from Keith's question what is the situation if has a Templot plan for public viewing on a website ? ....and is it acceptable to offer a download of the BOX/BGS/etc files provided no charge is made for them ?Hi Rob,

I think it is covered in para 5 in the terms of use:

 http://templot.com/companion/terms_of_use.php

Essentially you can do anything you like with Templot-derived material, provided:

1. You don't charge for it. You can charge for your work and time in preparing it, but not for the material itself. In other words you can't demand its return. If you have a dispute with your customer, the actual Templot material is not part of it.

2. You don't claim copyright on it. In other words you don't try to prevent anyone else from copying it, using it, publishing it, etc.

I retain copyright on what comes out of Templot -- if I became aware of it being used in some offensive or undesirable way I could enforce my copyright to require its removal.

In theory that is. I hope it never comes to that, because the only winners in such situations are the lawyers -- and we are only talking about toy trains. :)

What may become a grey area is how this applies to Templot3 if others have contributed to it? If the template design remains as I designed it, my copyright in the design would endure. But if it is redesigned by others, that would no longer be the case. I'm not clear how the open-source licences apply to the actual output from software. :?

cheers,

Martin.

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Hi Martin,

Thanks for that. Anybody downloading a BOX file from the internet will need to have a copy of Templot2 ( or 3 ) to make use of it so should be aware of the T&Cs regarding its use.

Maybe you should embed a small rodent in each template :D

Rob


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With regards to the Open Source version of Templot. That really depends upon a couple of factors.

Firstly, what license Templot 3 is influenced under. There are a number of different Open Source licenses available such as GPL or Apache and many variations that give more or less rights to the creator as desired. This needs careful consideration. Not all of the code has to be a part of the overall license either depending upon the type of open source license used for the main code, so commercial derivatives could be possible if that were desired for instance - not saying they would be, but just an example.

For the output, you could use the various Creative Commons licenses, which have a variety of stipulations etc. There are other licenses that could apply here.
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d827kelly wrote: With regards to the Open Source version of Templot. That really depends upon a couple of factors.

Firstly, what license Templot 3 is influenced under. There are a number of different Open Source licenses available such as GPL or Apache and many variations that give more or less rights to the creator as desired. This needs careful consideration. Not all of the code has to be a part of the overall license either depending upon the type of open source license used for the main code, so commercial derivatives could be possible if that were desired for instance - not saying they would be, but just an example.

For the output, you could use the various Creative Commons licenses, which have a variety of stipulations etc. There are other licenses that could apply here.

OpenTemplot, TemplotMEC, and Templot3 are released under GPL3.




see:

 https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html

Martin.

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