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topic: 3651Half scissors timbering
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posted: 1 May 2020 12:38

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William Williamson
 
 

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I have a half scissors set up, which requires fettling with the timbers and the check and wing rails, however I've come across something I've not seen before - the timbers are aligned towards the straight road and so at an acute angle to each other as they approach the diamond in the centre of the scissors, whose timbers split the difference and are vertical.

I'm just not quite sure on how best to handle this - my gut feeling is to align the timbers to the curved route, which brings them close to vertical, and then rotate and skew from there. This is where I got to:

http://i.imgur.com/AVUs23U.png
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posted: 1 May 2020 14:36

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Phil O
 
Plymouth - United Kingdom

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Hi William,

From what I can see of your picture it doesn't look as if the roads of the opposing turnouts will line up with each other. Have you got the timbering set to square on to the main road or equalized incremental?.

Your picture is very fuzzy making it difficult to discern what you have done.

Cheers Phil.

posted: 1 May 2020 14:38

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William Williamson
 
 

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Hi Phil, apologies - the roads of the turnouts are out by the merest fraction - less than a millimetre, so I figure I'll use the bendy-stick method for those two roads once they're past the straight section of the common crossings.

The image looks OK to me I can make out the individual pixels on the timbers - how can I make it better?

posted: 1 May 2020 15:00

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Phil O
 
Plymouth - United Kingdom

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I have just looked at it again on my laptop, rasther than my tablet and the image is somewhat clearer.

The timbering doesn't look to awful, you seem to have the noses supported. The timbering is going to be a bit tight as the opposing common crossings are in fairly close proximity, but you can get between them to pack under the chairs, which is all the ganger can ask for in the situation.

What I did when I did one awhile ago was to add a branch track to my first turnout, with no timbering and then roam the other one to get the turnout road of the 2nd turnout aligned by eye to the first, rather than have a gap.

Cheers

Phil
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posted: 1 May 2020 16:13

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wcampbell23
 
Hamilton, Scotland - United Kingdom

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Hi William

I think the real problem stems from the use of two separate turnout templates.

I would start with the curve that is common to the two turnouts as a section of plain track.
Insert a LH turnout at the left hand end and then split the exit track.
Insert a RH turnout at the right hand end of the exit track.
Put in both branch tracks - ignore the fact that they overlap at this stage.
Make one of the branch tracks the control template and then click on the other to bring up the menu.
Move the pointer over the peg / align tools and select the Make diamond crossing at intersection option.
You will have some tidying up to do - one of the branch templates is now redundant and there will be template lengths to adjust.

Getting back to your original request - make the timbering for the turnouts:  equalized incremental.

That will help tidy up the timbering.

I have attached a box file in Martin's fictional T55 gauge as a demo (you did not mention your scale/gauge) so that you can see the templates needed.

I hope you find this some help.

Bill Campbell.
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Last edited on 1 May 2020 16:17 by wcampbell23


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