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posted: 14 May 2008 02:48 from: Martin Wynne
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Many thanks to Bill Hoshiko on the handlaidtrack group for finding these images linked here from the American Memory collection. America from the Great Depression to World War II: Color Photographs from the FSA-OWI, 1939-1945 1a34749v.jpg  Santa Fe R.R. going through Yucca, Arizona; a watering and refueling stop March 1943 1a34738v.jpg  Santa Fe R.R. train, Melrose, New Mexico March 1943 1a34663v.jpg  Tracks at C & NW RR's Proviso yard, Chicago, Ill. 1943 April 1a34714v.jpg  The giant Santa Fe R.R. 10 million bushel grain elevator, Kansas March 1943 1a34662v.jpg  Tracks at Proviso yard of C & NW RR, Chicago, Ill. April 1943 1a34785v.jpg  General view of part of the South Water Street Illinois Central Railroad freight terminal, Chicago, Ill. April 1943 1a34631v.jpg  View of a classification yard at C & NW RR's Proviso yard, Chicago, Ill. Dec 1942 1a34733v.jpg  Santa Fe R.R. train stopping for coal and water, Laguna, New Mexico March 1943 Brilliant -- thanks Bill.  Martin. |
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posted: 14 May 2008 04:51 from: John Lewis
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1a34631v.jpgYou could get a *train* lost in a place like this. I don't suppose it still exists. John |
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posted: 15 May 2008 22:13 from: Martin Wynne
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John Lewis wroteYou could get a *train* lost in a place like this.Hi John, See: proviso2.jpg  proviso1.jpg  In Virtual Earth at: Proviso Yard regards, Martin. |
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posted: 16 May 2008 00:03 from: Alan Pearmain
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Is it a hump shunting yard? It looks like there are thirteen braking sections with loose vehicles on the move. Rather risky with a roadway crossing five diverging lines near the yard throat, I should have thought. How likely is it that the same tracks and sleepers that were in the 1943 pictures are still in place 60-odd years later? Alan |
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posted: 16 May 2008 00:21 from: John Lewis
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Martin Wynne wroteIn Virtual Earth at: Proviso YardMartin Fascinating. Thank you. John |
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posted: 16 May 2008 00:36 from: Martin Wynne
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Alan Pearmain wrote: Is it a hump shunting yard? It looks like there are thirteen braking sections with loose vehicles on the move. Rather risky with a roadway crossing five diverging lines near the yard throat, I should have thought.Hi Alan, Yes the hump is at the west end. I assume this is the control cabin on the left: proviso3.jpg  More about this yard is being discussed at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/handlaidtrack/message/6484 How likely is it that the same tracks and sleepers that were in the 1943 pictures are still in place 60-odd years later?Not very likely I would have thought, but it would be worth asking on the handlaid track group above. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 16 May 2008 01:00 from: Bruce Wilson
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Martin Wynne wrote: Alan Pearmain wrote:Yes, as Martin noted it is a hump yard. The hump tower is on the left side of the picture as Martin as shown in the bird's eye view. You can make out the steps going up the embankment. To the right of the lattice work light tower are the first sets of retarders.Is it a hump shunting yard? It looks like there are thirteen braking sections with loose vehicles on the move. Rather risky with a roadway crossing five diverging lines near the yard throat, I should have thought.Hi Alan, Bruce Wilson Barrie, Ontario |
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posted: 16 May 2008 03:03 from: Nigel Brown click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Any idea what size of rail would have been used in 1943? Or to put it differently, in HO would it equate to Code 83 say, or something lighter? I'm guessing but it looks to me like something lighter. Nigel |
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posted: 16 May 2008 08:54 from: Andy Reichert click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Nigel Brown wrote: Any idea what size of rail would have been used in 1943? Or to put it differently, in HO would it equate to Code 83 say, or something lighter? I'm guessing but it looks to me like something lighter.Depends on the railway co, the era and the use. I.e. yards, heavy main line, old light branch, etc. Range would be 60 Lb FB up to about 120 Lb FB. So mainline of that era would be likely be modeled code 70 ish, with code 70 or code 55 in the yards, depending on their loading. Older yards and spurs could easily be code 40. The US is unlike the UK in that rail size varied widely on each company due to age and use. Andy |
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posted: 17 May 2008 17:19 from: Roger Henry
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If you "Google" Proviso Yard you will get a surprising number of 'hits' that will keep you away from your modelling for some time. Roger, Brisbane |
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