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topic: 468First Track Plan Attempt
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posted: 28 Jun 2008 02:17

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Mark B.
 
 

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Hi All,

 First I had better introduce myself. I'm Mark Burgess and whilst having had Templot for a few years now have only really played with it. This is a plan from an Iain Rice book called Witheridge based on the Culm Valley railway. I scanned the plan into Templot and overlaid the track onto it as accuratley as possible.

 I therefore have added the file to this post (if I have done it right) for you to see. Hopefully if I have made any real errors the experts out there can help me out

 I look forward to comments both good and bad.

Regards, Mark
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posted: 28 Jun 2008 02:34

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Phil O
 
Plymouth - United Kingdom

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Hi Mark

I have had a quick look at your track plan and there are four turnouts with a radius of 23" or less. This may well cause you operating problems unless using short wheelbase loco's and rolling stock. The offending turnouts are at the left hand end of your track plan and are currently numbered 118, 122, 144 & 147.

Cheers Phil

posted: 28 Jun 2008 02:39

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Mark B.
 
 

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Hi Phil,

 The biggest loco will probably be 0-6-0 and 4 wheel stock so hopefully there shouldn't be any problems.

 Also I should of said that it is to fit in 8'x2' nominally.

 Might try to increase them though. Any recommendations on minimum radus for fine scale '00'?

Cheers, Mark

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posted: 28 Jun 2008 03:02

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Nigel Brown
 
 

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Mark B. wrote:
Hi Phil,

 The biggest loco will probably be 0-6-0 and 4 wheel stock so hopefully there shouldn't be any problems.

 Also I should of said that it is to fit in 8'x2' nominally.

 Might try to increase them though. Any recommendations on minimum radus for fine scale '00'?

Cheers, Mark

Hi Mark

You might get problems with the 4 wheel stock if it's long wheelbase. As Phil recommended, I should try to increase the radius; this should look better as well. 118, 122 and 147 all have 1:5 crossings; I think you can probably increase them to 1:6 without altering the essentials of the design or creating space problems, which would give significantly better radii. If you can alter 122 to a 1:6.5 crossing without creating problems so much the better.

cheers
Nigel

posted: 28 Jun 2008 03:51

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Phil O
 
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Hi Mark

You can also alter the radius by changing to GW old type curved switches which give a larger radius for a shorter turnout. Also it will be more prototypical as you are modeling an ex GW branch line.

Up to 1 in 5 1/4 nose use 9 ft switches
1 in 5 1/2 to 1 in 6 1/4 nose use 10 ft switches
1 in 6 1/2 to 1 in 8 nose use 12 ft switches

For more details I refer you to GWR switch and crossing practice by David Smith published by the Great Western Study Group.

http://gwsg.ukmodelshops.co.uk/

Cheers Phil

posted: 28 Jun 2008 16:30

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Mark B.
 
 

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Thanks for the input chaps. I was thinking about increasing them to 1:6 so will have a fiddle this evening if I get time.

 Regards, Mark

posted: 28 Jun 2008 17:07

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Jim Guthrie
 
United Kingdom

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Mark B. wrote:
Thanks for the input chaps. I was thinking about increasing them to 1:6 so will have a fiddle this evening if I get time.

 Regards, Mark
Mark,

I had a quick look at your layout and another thing you might try is to use some "Y" turnouts which would give you a bit of elbow room to increase the radii.  In particular I was looking at the turnout at the bottom of the plan which feeds the two sidings.   Changing this to a "Y" configuration would get rid of the sharpish "S" bend on the lower siding and increase the radii. Increasing the crossing number would further help matters.

You can do the quick and dirty "Y" which is just to use the curving tool on a standard turnout, And I think I remember Martin doing a video or help note to draw a pukka "Y" turnout.

Jim.

posted: 29 Jun 2008 00:55

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Mark B.
 
 

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Right! I've modified the points and have attached the amended track plan to this message. Again your thoughts please gentlemen.
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posted: 29 Jun 2008 03:43

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Nigel Brown
 
 

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Looks a lot better, doesn't it?
Nigel

posted: 29 Jun 2008 04:01

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Mark B. wrote:
Right! I've modified the points and have attached the amended track plan to this message.
Hi Mark,

Thanks for sharing your design. But you have uploaded a file of nearly 2MB containing 218 templates, of which just 27 are in use. The rest are unused. That's fine while you are working if you want the option to back-track the designs. But it's not so good when sharing a file, especially for those still on slow dial-up. :(

So before uploading, save your existing file if you want it. Then go to the Storage Box and click the box > delete unused templates menu item. Then you can save a new smaller file suitable for uploading. :)

regards,

Martin.

posted: 30 Jun 2008 00:47

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Sorry Martin. I didn't realise that I this happened. I will try to do this and reupload the file.

Apologies to any of you on dial up.

Cheers, Mark

posted: 30 Jun 2008 15:02

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Mark B.
 
 

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Hi All,

 Deleted the unused templates as Martin suggested, so the file is a lot smaller now. I hope!

Regards, Mark



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