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posted: 8 Jan 2009 02:46 from: Raymond
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Does anyone have any information of the size of track panels that would have been in use at Crieff in around 1923? Were they 30, 45 or 60 foot? all my reference material is in storage right now but I have little for anywhere this far north of Wolverhampton anyway. Many thanks for any help. Regards Raymond |
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posted: 8 Jan 2009 04:57 from: Jim Guthrie
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Raymond wrote: Does anyone have any information of the size of track panels that would have been in use at Crieff in around 1923? Were they 30, 45 or 60 foot? all my reference material is in storage right now but I have little for anywhere this far north of Wolverhampton anyway.Raymond, I've just had a look at two photos of St.Fillans and Balquhidder stations and the track appears to have twelve sleepers between fishplates which would point to 30ft panels. These stations were close to Crieff and were built quite late in the Victorian period - in fact Balquhidder was probably rebuilt in the Edwardian period. The track should be representative of Caledonian practice up to the Grouping although I'll see if I can find a picture(s) of Crieff where the track details are decipherable and the pictures are dated. I suspect that the scenery around these stations was somewhat more attractive that that surrounding Wolverhampton  Jim. [Edit] to show that Balquhidder was rebuilt, and not a new construction - in case some people wondered when the Oban line was built. |
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posted: 8 Jan 2009 13:24 from: Raymond
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Many thanks Jim, your help is much appreciated. I thought they would be short panels but it always pays to check. Depends what you mean by scenery, Wolverhampton had a factory and a large engine shed, all full of green engines. Paradise! Regards Raymond |
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posted: 8 Jan 2009 13:26 from: Jim Guthrie
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Jim Guthrie wrote: The track should be representative of Caledonian practice up to the GroupingReplying to myself It might be of interest, but I did find another picture of Balquhidder in 1950, taken about a year before the line closed for passenger traffic, and the track in the foreground still has twelve sleepers between fishplates. I've read that Pway practices in Scotland carried on well after the Grouping (out of sight, out of mind? ) so it is a fair bet that 30 foot panel track laid in the early part of the century would have existed for a long time in the attractive branches of the Caledonian. As a matter of interest, I travelled on short panel track under OLE in Class 303 units on the Dumbarton and Balloch Joint (ex Caley) well into the 1970s until they singled the branch and relaid with flat bottom rail.Jim. |
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posted: 9 Jan 2009 01:12 from: Scott Willis click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Raymond I have had a look through the few Caley railway books that I have. Unfortunately there are no pictures of Crief but there are a couple of clear photoraphs from other parts of the Caley empire c1920. One photograph shot in the Clyde Valley area shows track panels with 18 sleepers between fishplates which would point to 45' panels. Another photograph from Luncarty shows track panels with 14 sleepers between fishplates pointing to 30' panels. This doesn't help with information regarding Crief but it does show that during this period smaller 30' panels could still be found. Regards Scott |
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posted: 9 Jan 2009 03:53 from: Raymond
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Thanks Jim and Scott, that's been most helpful. Regards Raymond |
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posted: 11 Jan 2009 20:19 from: John McCrea
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Hi Raymond. Try the following link: http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-600-404-C It appears to be a thumbnail of an image of Crieff station which is available for purchase. Unfortunately, no date is given but it looks reasonably old. Regards John |
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posted: 12 Jan 2009 11:27 from: Raymond
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Thanks you John, I will pursue it. Regards Raymond |
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