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posted: 18 Feb 2009 13:27

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richard_t
 
Nr. Spalding, South Holland - United Kingdom

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Hello,

Can someone point me to an on-line source of maps that I might be able to scale the size of a site off. Preferably the maps are free :D

They don't have to be detailed enough to be able to templot the track, I'd just like to work out the size I might need to model it. (anytime around the 1900's would do)

I've tried http://www.old-maps.co.uk/, but without much success.

TIA

Richard

posted: 18 Feb 2009 14:31

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rodney_hills
 
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Richard,


http://www.nls.uk/maps/townplans/index.html


Lots of locations to choose from here, but only maps of Scotland are offered even though the organisation concerned is thought to possess the complete UK set.

Regards, Rodney Hills
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posted: 18 Feb 2009 14:35

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rodney_hills
 
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Richard,

The current large-scale mapping for England and Wales can be found here, may be of some use if you can still pick out your site and it hasn't be wiped out:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/planningportal/PcsMapIdentify?returnPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epcs%2Eplanningportal%2Egov%2Euk%2Fpcsportal%2FMapReturnRect.asp

make sure that you paste the whole thing into your browser.
Watch out for any linefeeds and/or blanks inserted by mail systems.
Just keep zooming in , you'll get to the very large scale mapping eventually.

Regards, Rodney Hills

 
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posted: 18 Feb 2009 16:16

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rodney_hills
 
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Richard,

It might help if you told us where specifically you are looking at sizing....

Regards, Rodney Hills

posted: 18 Feb 2009 17:32

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richard_t
 
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rodney_hills wrote:
Richard,

It might help if you told us where specifically you are looking at sizing....

Regards, Rodney Hills

Oh yes, I thought I had - It's the Deansgate (Knott Mill) area of Manchester. The planning portal was getting then until I clicked too quickly and it "went a bit strange". I'll persist with it.

Thanks for the link.

Richard.

posted: 18 Feb 2009 23:37

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Bill_Lobb
 
Scarborough - United Kingdom

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Sorry to crash this thread, but I am a bit puzzled by an OS map, so the title fits. I recently bought a download of the 1903 6" OS map of Talyllyn Junction in Powys. The track plan it shows is different from any other I have seen. This is the earliest I have seen, so I can see that it might be different, but on this map a train from Brecon to Merthyr would have to run wrong line through the station. Does anyone have an opinion on how reliable the track plans on a 6" map are?

posted: 19 Feb 2009 00:05

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Bill_Lobb wrote:
I recently bought a download of the 1903 6" OS map of Talyllyn Junction in Powys. The track plan it shows is different from any other I have seen. This is the earliest I have seen, so I can see that it might be different, but on this map a train from Brecon to Merthyr would have to run wrong line through the station. Does anyone have an opinion on how reliable the track plans on a 6" map are?
Hi Bill,

At that date there are no OS copyright problems -- you can scan it and attach it here so that we can see what you mean.

But I wouldn't rely too much on a 6" map -- even the 25" maps sometimes show decidedly iffy track arrangements, and need to be cross-referenced with photographic evidence.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 19 Feb 2009 18:37

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richard_t
 
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rodney_hills wrote:
Richard,

The current large-scale mapping for England and Wales can be found here, may be of some use if you can still pick out your site and it hasn't be wiped out:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/planningportal/PcsMapIdentify?returnPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epcs%2Eplanningportal%2Egov%2Euk%2Fpcsportal%2FMapReturnRect.asp

make sure that you paste the whole thing into your browser.
Watch out for any linefeeds and/or blanks inserted by mail systems.
Just keep zooming in , you'll get to the very large scale mapping eventually.

Regards, Rodney Hills

 


Others be warned - it's terribly addictive! I've been all over Manchester today (virtually that is)

Thanks again for the link

Richard.

posted: 20 Feb 2009 17:27

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richard_t
 
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A quick follow up question if I may.

What scale/type of maps/plans are suitable for getting a pretty decent Templot off? I've heard of "ratings plans"?? but I'm not sure where (getting old :() or are there detailed enough OS maps? I'm guessing that the OS don't really know about S&C sizes and the like?

Thanks again.

posted: 23 Feb 2009 22:18

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R A Watson
 
 

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Gents,

A quick trip to your local O S shop (usually a prominent stationers in the area but not normally any of the chain stores) will result in a copy of large scale O S maps on disc for a price. Our local firm is very helpfull and can sometimes supply historical as well as modern maps, although they drew a blank at my request for Killybegs due to it being "in the free state not Ulster" even when I insisted I was asking for early 1920s when all Ireland was part of the U K!

Wally

posted: 23 Feb 2009 22:50

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Alan Turner
 
Dudley - United Kingdom

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A trip to your local reference library should result in you being able to examine all the local 25" county series maps that generally start at about 1890 for the first edition and going through 1910 second, 1920 third and emergency edition of 1938.

After that the scale changed to 1:2500 and the National Grid was shown. Also the map projection changed but not that anyone would notice.

Alan

 

posted: 24 Feb 2009 20:13

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richard_t
 
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Thanks for all the follow ups. Whilst on the subject of maps, a friend of mind has just pointed me in the direction of:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/

Hope it's of use to someone



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