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topic: 1246How to sort out timbers
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posted: 14 Sep 2010 20:45

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RichardTP
 
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Hi everyone

I have attached my simple box of templates, which is part of my layout. I want to sort out the timbers so that I can make the section of track around the turnout area ie 5 turnouts.

Please realise I am very new to this so I'm not looking for prototypical perfection!

1) Do the turnouts look reasonable and workable

and

2) If so, what essential work do I need to do to the timbers.


Thanks

Richard
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posted: 14 Sep 2010 21:44

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Nigel Brown
 
 

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Hi Richard

I don't claim to be an authority on this, but I wonder if where you've got a number of timbers jumbled up together whether or not replacing some or all of them with a couple of long timbers spanning all the tracks would simplify things. Railways tended to avoid very long timbers but sometimes used them.
Other thing is you've used equalised timbering through all the turnouts, and in this case things might be neater if you use square-on to the main road.

As as said, I'm not an expert, just a couple of thoughts.

Cheers
Nigel

posted: 15 Sep 2010 12:46

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Judi R
 
Sutton-on-Sea - United Kingdom

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Hi Richard,

Depends on which era you're modelling. BR practice over the past 30 - 40 years or so would be to square the timbers to the main through road and, as Richard has said, put in about half a dozen through timbers under the crossing 19'-6" or 20'-0" long for a standard 6-foot.

Unless you're modelling a confined area, your third track would normally be placed further away, 8 to 10 feet from the adjacent track, and the timbering would then "unlace" itself.

But ... the exception always proves the rule!

Judi

posted: 15 Sep 2010 14:42

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RichardTP
 
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Hi

Thanks for your replies. I am trying to do an LMS 1930's ers layout.

Should I square all of the timbers to the main lines?

If so is there a tutorial anywhere on how I do this.

Thanks

Richard

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richard_t
 
Nr. Spalding, South Holland - United Kingdom

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I can provide perhaps an extreme example but the photographs I have of Manchester Central around the building of the new Signal box (mid-1930's), show all of the complex formations have been timbered square on.

(I'll be modifying my plan when I've plucked up the courage!)

HIH

15 Sep 2010 14:50

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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RichardTP wrote:
what essential work do I need to do to the timbers.
Hi Richard,

Some detailed notes about timbering:

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and:

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Judi is right about the track spacing. You shouldn't normally have more than two tracks spaced at 6ft way. To meet the regulations, sidings and loops are spaced 10ft way from running lines, and multiple tracks are grouped in pairs alternating 6ft way and 10ft way.

The rules allow this to be reduced to 9ft way minimum where space constraints make it unavoidable.

Your turnouts are all B-6 which is a bit tight for a curved crossover. There would seem to be room for longer ones, at least B-8 and preferably C-10 or longer. These would look much better and provide a much easier radius through the crossovers.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 15 Sep 2010 16:00

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RichardTP
 
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Hi

Thanks again to everyone for the suggestions.

Martin

I will have to look again at my turnouts and see if I can alter them to B8's

Also thanks for the links

Regards

Richard



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