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posted: 26 Sep 2016 08:16

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Hayfield
 
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Whilst I am preaching to the converted here, I must say as you would expect (and I guess expo is exactly the same) the standard of trackwork on the layouts at the show was stunning. 

Also noticeable (as I helped out on the C&L stand) there was total interest in better quality trackwork what ever 4 mm gauge the modellers worked in, as opposed to other shows where top class layouts are shown where the acceptance for quality trackwork in 00 gauge is still quite low.

As for the show its self, the high number of demonstration stands must be commended, something smaller/local shows seem to omit. I have no idea about those selling rolling stock kits but again there were a quite a few modellers (far more than normal) taking the plunge into trying P4, buying the odd length of track and or a turnout kit or a few track parts just to give it a go. I would guess stands selling loco or rolling stock kits would have also benefited by those who after a chat with a demonstrator went on to buy something to build

posted: 26 Sep 2016 17:30

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DerekStuart
 
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To add to Mr. Hayfield's comments, it was also noticeable how many people were talking very enthusiastically about Templot- especially those who were watching Howard Bolton's excellent tutorials (some of whom were clearly beginners).

Certainly I heard none of the "it's toooooo haaarrddd" type comments that I have just been reading on the forum for that society.



posted: 27 Sep 2016 21:18

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Paul Willis
 
 

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Hayfield wrote:
Also noticeable (as I helped out on the C&L stand) there was total interest in better quality trackwork what ever 4 mm gauge the modellers worked in, as opposed to other shows where top class layouts are shown where the acceptance for quality trackwork in 00 gauge is still quite low.

As for the show its self, the high number of demonstration stands must be commended, something smaller/local shows seem to omit. I have no idea about those selling rolling stock kits but again there were a quite a few modellers (far more than normal) taking the plunge into trying P4, buying the odd length of track and or a turnout kit or a few track parts just to give it a go. I would guess stands selling loco or rolling stock kits would have also benefited by those who after a chat with a demonstrator went on to buy something to build
I'm sorry I didn't have chance to say hello, as I'd spotted via RMWeb you would be on the C&L stand.

Whenever I had chance to take a spell away from my own demonstration (Pre-Grouping wagons) then I tended to be "on a mission" to find someone or track something down.  So alas I had less time for socialising than I normally do at a show.

However the people I chatted to who were starting off down a P4 route were very enthusiastic about it, and greatly inspired by the modelling on show.  I had several good conversations about the basics of finescale modelling, such as the choice of suspension systems (or not) and the pros and cons of various couplings, among others.

I'm expecting to be doing the "Starting in P4" demonstration at Scalefour North in Wakefield next year, so I hope to have the same rewarding experience again.

Cheers
Paul Willis
Scalefour Society Deputy Chairman

PS - both Chris Mitton (Society Treasurer) and I had Templot printouts of our prospective projects on our stands, and would happily explain if asked that yes, Templot most definitely is worth the initial learning curve...


posted: 28 Sep 2016 08:33

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Hayfield
 
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Paul

A good show for the enthusiast which ever gauge they work in, I guess you have an advantage over some shows you can be a little more generous with the things like visitor seating and demonstration stands

I think slowly more 4 mm modellers are taking notice of the track element of the hobby, with more and more wanting something better. As I said it was very noticeable this year/show in those who both just wanted to see if P4 is within their modelling abilities and those in 00 gauge just wanting something better

I could only grab the odd times to have a look round, so missed many opportunities to gain some more knowledge.

posted: 29 Sep 2016 12:12

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madscientist
 
 

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Hayfield wrote:
Paul

A good show for the enthusiast which ever gauge they work in, I guess you have an advantage over some shows you can be a little more generous with the things like visitor seating and demonstration stands

I think slowly more 4 mm modellers are taking notice of the track element of the hobby, with more and more wanting something better. As I said it was very noticeable this year/show in those who both just wanted to see if P4 is within their modelling abilities and those in 00 gauge just wanting something better

I could only grab the odd times to have a look round, so missed many opportunities to gain some more knowledge.
It could be that the success of P4 in general is pushing up modelling standards in all versions of 4mm. Couple that with the increasing detail and accuracy of rtr products and the hobby is slowly moving up a notch. It obviously has dawned on the likes of PECO and DCC Conceots that 00 modellers are interested in upping their game also 

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posted: 29 Sep 2016 17:14

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Hi. I was at Scaleforum with my layout Green Street, which seemed to attract a lot of attention and nice comments.
Add in the quality of much RTR stock, which is something we could only dream about years ago and the fact that converting a good many of them to P4 is so much easier now with the ready availability of drop in wheel-sets from a variety of sources, yes I know there is a long waiting list for some of them, but they are available. I recently converted a Heljan class 33 and straight out of the box it runs like a sewing machine. Perhaps this is another element in the incentive to want trackwork of a matching standard.
Tony W.

posted: 30 Sep 2016 08:28

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Hayfield
 
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madscientist wrote:
Hayfield wrote:
Paul

A good show for the enthusiast which ever gauge they work in, I guess you have an advantage over some shows you can be a little more generous with the things like visitor seating and demonstration stands

I think slowly more 4 mm modellers are taking notice of the track element of the hobby, with more and more wanting something better. As I said it was very noticeable this year/show in those who both just wanted to see if P4 is within their modelling abilities and those in 00 gauge just wanting something better

I could only grab the odd times to have a look round, so missed many opportunities to gain some more knowledge.
It could be that the success of P4 in general is pushing up modelling standards in all versions of 4mm. Couple that with the increasing detail and accuracy of rtr products and the hobby is slowly moving up a notch. It obviously has dawned on the likes of PECO and DCC Conceots that 00 modellers are interested in upping their game also 

Dave 
Dave

Certainly those working to finer standards (its not just the province of P4/S4) have helped a great deal, coupled with ever improving kits and ready to run and high quality accessories which are now available

posted: 30 Sep 2016 08:31

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Hayfield
 
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Tony W wrote:
Hi. I was at Scaleforum with my layout Green Street, which seemed to attract a lot of attention and nice comments.
Add in the quality of much RTR stock, which is something we could only dream about years ago and the fact that converting a good many of them to P4 is so much easier now with the ready availability of drop in wheel-sets from a variety of sources, yes I know there is a long waiting list for some of them, but they are available. I recently converted a Heljan class 33 and straight out of the box it runs like a sewing machine. Perhaps this is another element in the incentive to want trackwork of a matching standard.
Tony W.
Tony

You are spot on here, better quality items are now available, these have lifted expectations of modellers and they have more money to spend on their hobby



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