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Hi guys
Has anyone either redrawn this in templot or scanned it as a background shape please? I always rely on the office scanner but can't access it at present as I'm working from home.

Regards and stay safe

Mike

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Hi Mike,

Can you clarify what you want? As far as I can see, C&L do not supply an outside slip template.

I'm happy to create one in Templot for you, but I need to know exactly what you want.

1. crossing angle? Common sizes for outside slips are 1:4.5 or 1:5.

2. track gauge? 16.2mm for 4-SF / 00-SF, or 16.5mm for 00-BF. For diamonds and slips you can't use the same template for both.

3. radius in the crossing roads if not straight?

4. timbering scale? 3.5mm/ft as C&L 00 templates, or 4mm/ft as 00/EM.

5. bullhead or flat-bottom rail?

Or alternatively if you attach your .box file here, I will see what fits.

cheers,

Martin.

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Hi Martin
The “old” C&L, under Brian Lewis did supply one, but I only have an EM version.

Paul

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Thanks Paul.

What is the angle of the diamond in that?

Scrub that, I have just noticed 1:4.5 written between the timbers. :)

cheers,

Martin.

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I have a copy of this and if you phone Phil Reid up at C&L I am certain he has these in stock
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Hi Martin.

While having a good look at the C&L picture to see where the angle of the diamond was written I noticed something which IMHO is wrong. At the right side there are dimensions shown including the 6 foot way which here is measured from the inside faces of the rails. I remember reading a discussion* about the prototype track centres' separation for the 6 foot way that a guy had got wrong as 10' 9"1/2 because he'd forgotten the two 2".75 rail thicknesses when measuring from the inner faces. Indeed, I have a C&L EM kit for a B6 turnout and that too measures from the inner face. 

Am I right that a prodigious company like C&L have it wrong or do I need to get out more?

Cheers

Paul   

* I was looking into how much I needed to cut OO Peco turnouts to obtain the prototype track centre distance.

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Kenilworth59 wrote:Am I right that a prodigious company like C&L have it wrong or do I need to get out more?Hi Paul,

You are right and the C&L templates are wrong. I had completely forgotten about that as one of the several errors on the C&L templates. Thanks for reminding me.

But note that on the GWR and BR(W) the track separation is indeed measured to the gauge faces, but in that case it is 6ft-6in (but still referred to as the six-foot).

The result for most rail (2.75" wide) is that GWR spacing is 1/2" wider than the rest:

non-GWR: 11ft-2in  (134") track centres

GWR: 11ft-2.5in (134.5") track centres

cheers,

Martin.

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Hi Martin and others

Firstly a big apology, I posted my original query about 4 weeks in to lockdown and more or less instantly lost all my modelling interest as things sort of caught up with me. I am now getting my act back together after immersing myself in my work so sorry to have wasted peoples time.

Regards

Mike
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