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posted: 8 Sep 2020 07:44 from: Martin Wynne
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It's always interesting to see how Templot is regarded in the wider hobby. From today's Railway Modeller magazine (October 2020): "Once we had agreed on the track plan I then drew it on an AutoCAD package at work across a few lunchtimes. I also used the Templot program to obtain the various turnouts sizes and shapes I would require. [Ed. Templot is free to download at: http://www.templot.com – it is not a layout planning aid, but a programme that can be used to devise pointwork geometry]. I downloaded them in .dxf format and imported them into my AutoCAD track plan drawing." How to do it the hard way. For a small diesel depot layout in 0 Gauge. Each to his own, but I doubt we shall be overwhelmed by a sudden rush of RM readers.  cheers, Martin. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 08:04 from: Hayfield
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Martin Perhaps arrange with Railway Modeler to write up an article |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 09:24 from: Paul Boyd
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Well, it's handy to know we can use it to devise pointwork geometry. Who'd have thought it? That article does suggest a convoluted way of doing things. Maybe it's just as well there won't be a rush of RM readers as otherwise you'll be bombarded with requests on how to join Peco templates together in Templot! (I'm a long-standing RM reader, having been buying it since 1981 when I was 15, so I'm not being derogatory towards their readership!). |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 10:10 from: Martin Wynne
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Hi Paul, I'm also a long-standing RM reader (although nowadays in digital form only). Please feel free to be derogatory towards me. What an inspired decision by Sydney Pritchard to buy up a model railway magazine as a marketing tool for his Peco products. Still going strong 70 years later, as all around it print magazines are dropping like flies (Bauer recently closed about a dozen titles). cheers, Martin. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 14:29 from: Nigel Brown click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
I bought a lot, but not all, RM issues over the years, but storing them was a real pain. So I ditched most of them (probably too many) keeping only those I knew would be useful. However, a few years ago subscribed to the digital version; great, a monthly read and no storage hassle. Have also taken out a BRM one. I suspect that for someone who has been trained to use Autocad in their daily lives, using it for layout planning would be the natural thing to do. They'd probably find that plus Templot for where detailed templates are required a nice combination. Nigel |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 16:10 from: Paul Boyd
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Martin Wynne wrote: I'm also a long-standing RM reader (although nowadays in digital form only).I can't get on with digital - I like to physically hold the magazine and flip through it. I only read my first Kindle novels a couple of months ago! |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 16:12 from: Paul Boyd
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Nigel Brown wrote: I bought a lot, but not all, RM issues over the years, but storing them was a real pain. So I ditched most of them (probably too many) keeping only those I knew would be useful.Agreed - 30 years of any magazine does take up an awful lot of space! I only keep physical copies of a few titles (RM and MRJ being two), and any other magazines have interesting articles cut out and filed. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 16:28 from: John Shelley
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Paul Boyd wroteAgreed - 30 years of any magazine does take up an awful lot of space! I only keep physical copies of a few titles (RM and MRJ being two), and any other magazines have interesting articles cut out and filed.I also tried cutting out what I thought would be of use/interest in the future and then a few years later found that the part article on the back of the one I'd saved was actually more useful than what I'd saved, only it wasn't all there.  John from 33820, St Ciers sur Gironde |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 16:32 from: Paul Boyd
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John Shelley wrote: also tried cutting out what I thought would be of use/interest in the future and then a few years later found that the part article on the back of the one I'd saved was actually more useful than what I'd saved, only it wasn't all there.Hi John. Yep, been there as well! Interests change over time, but I do only have so much space! Occasionally I've been driven to getting hold of a back issue of a magazine on eBay or wherever that I'd already bought once! Paul |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 19:04 from: Trevor Walling
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Hello, As one of those with a store of old Magazines that "Just need sorting" the responses bring a smile to my face. I wonder just how many of us are in the same position but find other things in the digital age that mean they remain a "to do thing"  Trevor. |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 20:30 from: dave turner
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8 years ago, due to having to sell the family home, I had no recourse but to dispose of 50 years of meccano, electronics, computing & railway magazines. R.I.P. darn it! | ||
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 21:14 from: Rob Manchester
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Martin Wynne wrote: Hi Paul,Hi Martin, It is a good job the battle between Peco and the Scalefour Society blew over back in the mid-seventies or we may not have RM anymore and we would all be modelling 18.83 I had a purge through RM a few years ago and tore out the 'useful' articles but who knows what I missed. I seem to remember that Peco wouldn't let advertisers include web links in their adverts in the early days of the internet - support your local model shop and all that - where would we be now without on-line sales? Rob |
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posted: 8 Sep 2020 21:51 from: Martin Wynne
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Rob Manchester wrote:I seem to remember that Peco wouldn't let advertisers include web links in their adverts in the early days of the internet - support your local model shop and all thatHi Rob, The real reason was that they didn't (still don't?) allow advertising for any competing hobbies other than model railways. At that time "Home Computers" and computer games were seen as a geeky new hobby distracting folks away from model making. There were articles about how it would mean the death of railway modelling with everyone furiously building their own computers instead of making models. So Peco/RM saw anything which encouraged such hobby interest as a threat to their business. cheers, Martin. |
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posted: 9 Sep 2020 00:43 from: Nigel Brown click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Peco also wouldn't accept digital photographs for a long time, because they feared that the pic could be tweaked to make the model look better than it was. Nigel |
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posted: 9 Sep 2020 01:45 from: Andrew Barrowman
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Nigel Brown wrote: Peco also wouldn't accept digital photographs for a long time, because they feared that the pic could be tweaked to make the model look better than it wasI think the first RM I bought was in 1959. I was amazed that there actually was such a thing when I saw it in the window of the little newsagent's I passed as I walked home from school. The B&W pictures were extremely poor by the standards of today but that was a feature as you had to imagine what it really looked like . Not that I want to create even more work for Martin but Templot is great for "noodling" possible layouts. When I do that I use centre lines only as it speeds up the screen refresh rate. Perhaps a couple of canned preferences for that would encourage more people to use it as a layout design tool, or would it? |
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posted: 9 Sep 2020 07:07 from: Martin Wynne
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Andrew Barrowman wrote:Not that I want to create even more work for Martin but Templot is great for "noodling" possible layouts. When I do that I use centre lines only as it speeds up the screen refresh rate. Perhaps a couple of canned preferences for that would encourage more people to use it as a layout design tool, or would it?Hi Andy, There is already the skeleton settings option for that: 2_090158_380000000.png  Much faster than the normal screen draw, but easier to use than centre-lines only. Remember to do a rebuild after changing the setting. It's been in Templot from the very beginning. I must have mentioned it over the years, but I don't remember doing so.  I could put it as a canned "noodling" option somewhere more prominent -- any suggestions for where? cheers, Martin. |
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posted: 9 Sep 2020 23:49 from: Andrew Barrowman
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Thanks Martin, Another feature in Templot I was not aware of I've tended to stay away from Generator because of some of the warnings.I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes. Cheers, Andy |
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posted: 12 Sep 2020 21:25 from: DerekStuart
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Hello Martin Could I offer the alternative explanation for Peco not allowing website links being more that they were worried companies would effectively advertise online rather than paying for space in their magazines. On the subject of perception of Templot, it is also commonly said that it's too hard and not "intuitive". But that's the case with any software. I use some specialist software at work and it also needs effort to learn. I would argue that when people say "isn't intuitive" what they really mean is "doesn't work in the way I expect from using Windows/ Android..." PS I have recently started using it after a gap of some 3 or 4 years and I found it very quick to re-learn, save for one or two more unusual functions which were lost in the grey matter somewhere. Derek Martin Wynne wrote: Rob Manchester wrote:I seem to remember that Peco wouldn't let advertisers include web links in their adverts in the early days of the internet - support your local model shop and all thatHi Rob, |
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