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posted: 11 Sep 2020 14:37

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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As I've mentioned several times, nothing causes more trouble for Templot than folks who will insist on running 3rd-party anti-virus programs instead of leaving it to Windows Defender to look after their system.

A much-respected developer on a help-desk for some serious software has just posted this. I couldn't have put it better:
 


"I'm afraid the third-party AV may actually be the problem here, rather than the solution. No other class of programs causes more issues in Windows, and no other class of programs interferes more with system performance and integrity. This is also logical: To be able to work, an AV program must literally undermine the entire security of the operating system on all levels, all the way down into the deepest level of the kernel, because attacks can happen anywhere. This means you are allowing programmers without access to the internals of the system to hook, redirect, spindle and mutilate the most fundamental and deepest functions of the entire system. That cannot ever be a good thing."



Martin.

posted: 11 Sep 2020 18:57

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Trevor Walling
 
United Kingdom

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Hello Martin,
As Windows is closed source I assume providers of 3rd-pary anti-virus programs must be in the dark to a certain degree. Which begs the question just how good / secure they actually are in reality.
Regards
Trevor:)

posted: 11 Sep 2020 19:00

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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I really can't understand why people with Windows 7 or above are still paying for software that not only is totally unnecessary, but clobbers their machine and may even compromise it.  That software now only serves one purpose - to make money out of the gullible.

posted: 12 Sep 2020 05:29

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Andrew Barrowman
 
USA

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I HATE THIRD PARTY AV SOFTWARE. IT EXPLOITS VIRUSES AND IS, BY DEFINITION, A VIRUS ITSELF.

Sorry for shouting.

posted: 12 Sep 2020 19:47

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Trevor Walling
 
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Hello,
I think quite a few retailers/manufacturers bundle extra software just to impress the uninformed buyer and make it seem like they are getting more for their money sadly.

posted: 12 Sep 2020 21:45

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Nigel Brown
 
 

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I must be the exception here :D

I use AVG and have done for a long time, no problems, and it seems to be particularly good at flagging dodgy web sites. Don't think I've had a virus or anything else for over a decade.

One of the reasons I don't move to Windows defender is that the documentation is so appalling I can't find out precisely what I'm getting, and I've tried. Whereas with AVG I do.

This isn't the case of being lumbered by a manufacturer. I build my own PCs and all the software on them is what I've put on them.

Nigel



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