click here for a list of all existing Templot documentation
  Important Privacy Information cookie information pre-print options:    

 click image to open Templot Club in a new tab             Search           remove page highlighting
Templot club top logo
  looking for help ? -- -- --
looking for Templot? - (free)


enjoy using Templot? - 

 you are not logged in  - Login | Join

receive all messages by email: info


Recent Topics
Front Page  Search  Image Gallery  Gallery Upload  My Account  Members  SourceForge  TemplotMEC  Help  
make a donation  
please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors Templot Companion - User Guide
            Templot Chat Room
page trail:  Templot Club > Forums > Prototype pics > Bullhead fishplates
Templot web site

                 Bullhead fishplates
     
 Start new topic   Reply blank   Printer friendly 
  Rate this topic  
AuthorMessage
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
1st message | this message only posted: 11 Oct 2020 22:37
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Rob Manchester
Manchester, United Kingdom



view images in gallery
view images as slides
Hello,

Is there any pattern or reason behind the use of short 2-bolt fishplates for joining bullhead rails ? I remember them being mentioned in a topic a while back but a quick search didn't find it. Were there regional variations in their use ? I am guessing they would not have been used in faster main line settings or in more recent times. "British Railway Track" does mention the use of these shorter 9 inch fishplates and comments that 4 bolt fishplates were the best option.

Here is a poor quality pic ( of GWR origin ? )



Should we be putting these on a few lightly used sidings ?

Rob


__________
message ref: 31112

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
2nd message | this message only posted: 11 Oct 2020 23:08
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Matt M.
Australia

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
Hi Rob.

These were popular pre WW2. The Idea is they leave a shorter
unsupported length of rail at the ends of the panels.
This was supposed to counteract dip which is an issue
at rail joins which collect excessive wear and damage as
the wheels pass over.

Yes they were seen on main lines. Which companies and
where would require research.
They passed out of favour in the 1950's.

Regards, Matt M.
__________
message ref: 31113

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
3rd message | this message only posted: 11 Oct 2020 23:32
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Matt M.
Australia

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
And I forgot to mention rail creep. That was another reason
these were used. The deflection at the ends of panels and the
striking of wheels on the receiving rail end has an effect of
inducing rail creep. That was, till the development a a mechanical
rail puller in the early 1950's, an very labour intensive repair
operation.

Matt M.
__________
message ref: 31114

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
4th message | this message only posted: 12 Oct 2020 08:32
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Godfrey Earnshaw
Crawley, United Kingdom

 

view images in gallery
view images as slides
Hi,

They can still be seen on the preserved Bluebell Railway at Horsted Keynes in West Sussex. They are on the main, through, lines.

I cannot say if they are left over from BR or relatively new.

Somewhere, I think I have photos. If I can find them, I will post.

Cheers

Godders
__________
message ref: 31115

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
5th message | this message only posted: 12 Oct 2020 12:13
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
Phil O
Plymouth, United Kingdom



view images in gallery
view images as slides
There are/were about 20, 60ft panels with 2 bolt fishplates still on the ESR, starting just after Cranmore West Platform and ending near Cranmore fixed distant.

Cheers

Phil.
__________
message ref: 31116

 
 Clicked a link? Wrong message? Wait until the page has finished loading, click in the address bar and then press the Enter key. This is a timing bug in some browsers.
6th message | this message only posted: 23 Oct 2020 20:06
 PM  Reply with quote  Reply blank 
from:
DM
United Kingdom



view images in gallery
view images as slides


There was a section of two hole plated track beside the box at Bearley West Junction on the route to Hatton until a few years ago. I have also read of the existence of but never seen three hole fishplates.

__________
message ref: 31136

 
This is topic ID = 3797     Page created at 16:34 (local time)  
You can type a quick reply to this topic here.

Click in the box to begin.


But to reply to an individual message, or to include images, attachments and formatted text, use the reply buttons on each message above.

To start a new topic in this forum, click the Start new topic button below.
To start a new topic in a different forum, click the Forum Jump drop-down list below.

             Start new topic 

 click to jump to a different forum:     Back to top of page

Templot Club > Forums > Prototype pics > Bullhead fishplates
about Templot Club

list recently active topics Templot Companion - User Guide - A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors.
indexing link for search engines

back to top of page


Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to this web site are copyright and the property of the respective contributor. You are welcome to use them for your own personal non-commercial purposes, and in your messages on this web site. If you want to publish any of this material elsewhere or use it commercially, you must first obtain the owner's permission to do so.

The small print: All material submitted to this web site is the responsibility of the respective contributor. By submitting material to this web site you acknowledge that you accept full responsibility for the material submitted. The owner of this web site is not responsible for any content displayed here other than his own contributions. The owner of this web site may edit, modify or remove any content at any time without giving notice or reason.
Problems with this web site? Contact webmaster@templot.com.   This web site uses cookies: click for information.  
© 2020  

Powered by UltraBB - © 2009 Data 1 Systems